Senators to Unveil the ‘Ex-Patriot Act

[Vertnut]

If you halve the number of inmates the cost associated with the prison system will not drop by half. Prison systems are just like any other government bureaucracy in that they consume staggering amounts of capital without producing the intended results and they never ever get any smaller.

In TX the cost runs about 22k per annum. It cost almost zero dollars in the past when the system was self sufficient but politics intruded into the running of the TX prison system and now we spend a TON of cash on it.

If you killed everyone that was sentenced to die, your expenses on death row would be cut by 100%. That's a fact.

[CJ]

The private prisons in TX provide services to the feds and a few local county's for pretrial detention and post convection detention for crimes carrying a penalty of less then one year. There is a staggering difference between a TDCJ prison and one of the facilities that you are referring to. The ones that you are talking about are also merely an outgrowth of the existing bureaucratic Federal BOP.

All rooms with bars on the windows and doors that the occupants of the room can't open in TX are not necessarily a TX prison.

It would seem infowars and Alex Jones are not a good source of information.

[KBScobravert]

I wonder if this is the reason why the IRS has taken so much interest in me recently.

[46Tbird]

Where'd you get the money to build that purty car??

[KBScobravert]

Where'd you get the money to build that purty car??

They know where the money came from and it was ALL reported but I was overseas and claimed the overseas exemption allotted amount each year.

Me thinks they are trying to nullify those exemptions for me. They are trying every angle they can that is for sure.

[Denny]

They know where the money came from and it was ALL reported but I was overseas and claimed the overseas exemption allotted amount each year.

Me thinks they are trying to nullify those exemptions for me. They are trying every angle they can that is for sure.

Glad I won't have to worry about the IRS

[svauto-erotic855]

If you killed everyone that was sentenced to die, your expenses on death row would be cut by 100%. That's a fact.

Perceived "Facts" are not always facts.

The largest expense for death row comes from representing the accused killer. My client (John Nations) is an appeals attorney who charges Dallas County $475 per hour to do a capital murder appeal; each appeal is about 350 billable hours and it takes several appeals AND an automatic second trial to kill someone. Nation wide average to off an inmate on death row is 1.2 million. If you wanted to save money the cheapest route would be to sentence the killer to life without parole.

It would seem infowars and Alex Jones are not a good source of information.

He has his uses but getting an unbiased story out of him is not one of them.

[Vertnut]

Perceived "Facts" are not always facts.

The largest expense for death row comes from representing the accused killer. My client (John Nations) is an appeals attorney who charges Dallas County $475 per hour to do a capital murder appeal; each appeal is about 350 billable hours and it takes several appeals AND an automatic second trial to kill someone. Nation wide average to off an inmate on death row is 1.2 million. If you wanted to save money the cheapest route would be to sentence the killer to life without parole.



He has his uses but getting an unbiased story out of him is not one of them.

The cheapest thing is to kill them, just as they were sentenced. They don't cost a dime once they're in the ground.

[4eyedwillie]

And what about the ones that are actually innocent? Just say Oops sorry? Do you actually believe everyone that gets convicted is guilty? Look how many people from Dallas alone have been exonerated after spending years in jail or after they have been murdered. Which if they are innocent and a DA manipulates evidence just to get a kill no matter what is what the DA and judge should be charged with.

[Vertnut]

And what about the ones that are actually innocent? Just say Oops sorry? Do you actually believe everyone that gets convicted is guilty? Look how many people from Dallas alone have been exonerated after spending years in jail or after they have been murdered. Which if they are innocent and a DA manipulates evidence just to get a kill no matter what is what the DA and judge should be charged with.

If DNA can clear them, it can also lock them in. Speed up the process to prove it one way or the other, and get it done. Either release them, or kill them.

[ceyko]

If DNA can clear them, it can also lock them in. Speed up the process to prove it one way or the other, and get it done. Either release them, or kill them.

I'm not sure on this but support the DNA thing - I think a lot of the releases have been from cases prior to DNA being common practice.

[Vertnut]

I'm not sure on this but support the DNA thing - I think a lot of the releases have been from cases prior to DNA being common practice.

I thought DNA was being used to clear most of them. My point is that if DNA can clear them (as conclusive evidence), then use DNA (conclusively) to carry out the sentence. For those that were pre-DNA, allow them to use the current system.

[4eyedwillie]

There isn't always DNA at a crime scene. There have been several people that have been murdered by the state that other people have confessed to the crime afterwards. There have also been multiple cases that the prosecutors supressed evidence in just to get a conviction. In those situations what you want would result in murdering innocent people, NOT something I want to be part of as a society.

[svauto-erotic855]

There is a made for TV documentary film called "The thin blue line" about the Dallas DA (Doug Mulder) knowingly sending an innocent man (Randall Dale Adams) to death row.

Doug has a framed newspaper on the wall of his office about the conviction being overturned. He brags that anyone can send a guilty man to death row but it takes a bad mother fucker to send an innocent man to his death.

[4eyedwillie]

On the other hand if there is CLEAR evidence with absolutly no doubt that he or she is guilty such as with the Fort Hood shooter then I have absolutly no problem with a express lane to the needle.