FYI, it is now illegal to carry American cash.

[03trubluGT]

That's a bunch of bullshit. The guy actually committing the crime is the one who carries the vast majority of the responsibility. The others may be enabling him but that is pretty much irrelevant in my eyes. None of that will stop trublugt from blaming someone else of course, that is his answer to everything when it comes to the police being held accountable.

Wrong.

If he is trained to do it, the vicarious liability lands on the department. If they fail to take corrective action (training) they are liable.

Go ahead and refuse to believe the truth.

That's exactly why people sue entities instead of focusing on the individual officer. The deep pockets lie with the agency.

[03trubluGT]

Are you aware of any confiscations of cash within your department for "alleged" drug activity, with no evidence found nor charges brought up?

And if so, do you have a problem with that?

Not aware of a single confiscation. Every monetary seizure that I have witnessed or done has been in conjunction with a dope case.

You cannot (legally or morally) take someones money on a "hunch". I've seen guys roll around Stop 6 with wads of cash, and suspected illegal gains, but there's nothing you can do without PC.

If they are in fact dirty, there's another day to catch them.

[03trubluGT]

I used to make frequent trips to NC for two years to pickup parts/engines/etc and I'm pretty-sure I know exactly where this is happening on I-40. There's Tahoes that sit in the median with spotlights aimed at the license plates of oncoming cars. These Tahoes are solid black and have Police on the side with "DRUG ENFORCEMENT" underneath that. When they see an out-of-state plate, they will get behind the vehicle and run the plate. I'm only assuming it's to see the driver's criminal history. I'd be willing to bet that if some drug arrests popped-up, you'd be getting pulled-over. I know one of them had the spotlight pointed at the plate on my GMC truck, I wasn't speeding, just had it on cruise in the right lane, and he pulled onto the highway and followed me for a couple miles. I was somewhat nervous since all I had was a change of clothes and little else with me. I guess when he ran the tags and saw that ol' Matt Blansett was clean, he made a u-turn and went back to his fishing hole. If anyone else has been through TN on I-40, you've probably seen them, and I don't think I've ever gone by and not seen someone pulled-over.

You can't run a criminal history from a plate.

[03trubluGT]

This pisses me off more than anything I have ever heard of.

So if my grandmother leaves $125k cash to me as an inheritance, I'm a criminal for having it in the car with me... or for depositing it in a lump sum... or for breaking up deposits so as not to arouse suspicion. Any of these actions can lead to my legally-attained cash being stolen from me and I have to come up with PROOF that I have a legal right to possess it?

Pay stubs? WTF. Remind me what country we live in and what expectations of freedom we should have.

I think the LEOs here need to take a step back and look at the policies they enforce. This is real, honest, jack-booted-thug bullshit.

When they liquidate the estate, what's keeping them from giving you a cashier's check?

I can just see it know, "Granny's dead, here's $125,000 in CASH"....

[03trubluGT]

The officer has the discretion at the moment where he can fuck someone's life up over absolutely nothing, or he can let the person continue living their lawful life. The higher ups have NOTHING to do with that circumstance.

If he is trained NOT to do it (where does training come from, who dictates curriculum?) then why would he do it?

[46Tbird]

When they liquidate the estate, what's keeping them from giving you a cashier's check?

Why should it matter?

[Forever_frost]

When they liquidate the estate, what's keeping them from giving you a cashier's check?

I can just see it know, "Granny's dead, here's $125,000 in CASH"....

NOthing is keeping them from issuing a check. However if you want the cash because it's no one's business what you do with the money, then cops should keep their hands off it.

We've not reached the boiling point yet, but we're working on it

[MattB]

You can't run a criminal history from a plate.

What info can you pull-up? Just curious.

[03trubluGT]

Why should it matter?

Did I say it should?

It should NOT, IMHO, but I'm not the one out there doing this. One single cashier's check in a wallet would never be found.

Officer "Are you carrying large amounts of currency"
Citizen "No"

End of story.

[03trubluGT]

NOthing is keeping them from issuing a check. However if you want the cash because it's no one's business what you do with the money, then cops should keep their hands off it.

We've not reached the boiling point yet, but we're working on it

So you'd rather walk around with something that large and valuable? Say you get into a rollover accident and that money goes flying.

Say you get jacked at the gas station.

Say your car gets broken into.

One of my guys worked a burglary of vehicle at the Railhead on Montgomery. The victim claimed he had an envelope in the console with $5,000 that he was going to use to buy a car.

Now he's out $5k. He'll never get it back.

If he had a Cashier's check the thief would probably not take it, and if he did, he would have a hard time cashing a check that was made out to a person. Can you see a bank accepting a cashier's check for $125k without ID?

[03trubluGT]

What info can you pull-up? Just curious.

The registered owner's name and address.

Then you have to do a DL query on the owner's name and you might get 3 possible DLs or you might get 50.

If it is a common last name you could get pages of returns.

[stevo]

Officer "Are you carrying a large sum of money?"
Citizen "No."
Officer "May I search your car?"
Citizen "No."
Officer "I see what appears to be drugs in your vehicle, step out while I search your car. Oh look, you have a large sum of money, I am taking it since you lied about it"

Fucking corrected.

Stevo

[46Tbird]

Is carrying $5k in cash considered probable cause to search a vehicle?

[Forever_frost]

Did I say it should?

It should NOT, IMHO, but I'm not the one out there doing this. One single cashier's check in a wallet would never be found.

Officer "Are you carrying large amounts of currency"
Citizen "No"

End of story.

Then, they 'smell something' and pull you out and low and behold, you have a wad of cash in the car AND lied to a LEO

[03trubluGT]

Officer "Are you carrying a large sum of money?"
Citizen "No."
Officer "May I search your car?"
Citizen "No."
Officer "I see what appears to be drugs in your vehicle, step out while I search your car. Oh look, you have a large sum of money, I am taking it since you lied about it"

Fucking corrected.

Stevo