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    Man Loses $22,000 In New 'Policing For Profit' Case


    By Phil Williams
    Chief Investigative Reporter
    MONTEREY, Tenn. -- "If somebody told me this happened to them, I absolutely would not believe this could happen in America."
    That was the reaction of a New Jersey man who found out just how risky it can be to carry cash through Tennessee.

    For more than a year, NewsChannel 5 Investigates has been shining a light on a practice that some call "policing for profit."
    See previous stories:
    "NC5 Investigates: Policing For Profit"
    In this latest case, a Monterey police officer took $22,000 off the driver -- even though he had committed no crime.
    "You live in the United States, you think you have rights -- and apparently you don't," said George Reby.
    As a professional insurance adjuster, Reby spends a lot of time traveling from state to state. But it was on a trip to a conference in Nashville last January that he got a real education in Tennessee justice.
    "I never had any clue that they thought they could take my money legally," Reby added. "I didn't do anything wrong."
    Reby was driving down Interstate 40, heading west through Putnam County, when he was stopped for speeding.
    A Monterey police officer wanted to know if he was carrying any large amounts of cash.
    "I said, 'Around $20,000,'" he recalled. "Then, at the point, he said, 'Do you mind if I search your vehicle?' I said, 'No, I don't mind.' I certainly didn't feel I was doing anything wrong. It was my money."
    That's when Officer Larry Bates confiscated the cash based on his suspicion that it was drug money.
    "Why didn't you arrest him?" we asked Bates.
    "Because he hadn't committed a criminal law," the officer answered.
    Bates said the amount of money and the way it was packed gave him reason to be suspicious.
    "The safest place to put your money if it's legitimate is in a bank account," he explained. "He stated he had two. I would put it in a bank account. It draws interest and it's safer."
    "But it's not illegal to carry cash," we noted.
    "No, it's not illegal to carry cash," Bates said. "Again, it's what the cash is being used for to facilitate or what it is being utilized for."
    NewsChannel 5 Investigates noted, "But you had no proof that money was being used for drug trafficking, correct? No proof?"
    "And he couldn't prove it was legitimate," Bates insisted.
    Bates is part of a system that, NewsChannel 5 Investigates has discovered, gives Tennessee police agencies the incentive to take cash off of out-of-state drivers. If they don't come back to fight for their money, the agency gets to keep it all.
    "This is a taking without due process," said Union City attorney John Miles.
    A former Texas prosecutor and chairman of the Obion County Tea Party, Miles has seen similar cases in his area.
    He said that, while police are required to get a judge to sign off on a seizure within five days, state law says that hearing "shall be ex parte" -- meaning only the officer's side can be heard.
    That's why George Reby was never told that there was a hearing on his case.
    "It wouldn't have mattered because the judge would have said, 'This says it shall be ex parte. Sit down and shut up. I'm not to hear from you -- by statute," Miles added.
    George Reby said that he told Monterey officers that "I had active bids on EBay, that I was trying to buy a vehicle. They just didn't want to hear it."
    In fact, Reby had proof on his computer.
    But the Monterey officer drew up a damning affidavit, citing his own training that "common people do not carry this much U.S. currency."
    Read Officer Bates' affidavit
    "On the street, a thousand-dollar bundle could approximately buy two ounces of cocaine," Bates told NewsChannel 5 Investigates.
    "Or the money could have been used to buy a car," we observed.
    "It's possible," he admitted.
    NewsChannel 5 Investigates asked Bates if Reby had told him that he was trying to buy a car?
    "He did," the officer acknowledged.
    "But you did not include that in your report," we noted.
    "If it's not in there, I didn't put it in there."
    So why did he leave that out?
    "I don't know," the officer said.
    Bates also told the judge the money was hidden inside "a tool bag underneath trash to [deter] law enforcement from locating it."
    "That's inaccurate," Reby said. "I pulled out the bag and gave it to him."
    And even though there was no proof that Reby was involved in anything illegal, Bates' affidavit portrays him as a man with a criminal history that included an arrest for possession of cocaine.
    That was 20-some years ago," the New Jersey man insisted.
    "Were you convicted?" we wanted to know.
    "No, I wasn't convicted," he answered.
    But Officer Bates says that arrest -- which he acknowledged was old -- was still part of the calculation to take Reby's money.
    "Am I going to use it? Yes, I'm going to use it because he's been charged with it in the past -- regardless of whether it's 10 or 15 years ago," he said.
    Attorney John Miles said he's frustrated with attitudes toward Tennessee's civil forfeiture laws, which make such practices legal.
    "We are entitled not to be deprived of our property without due process of law, both under the Tennessee Constitution and the federal Constitution -- and nobody cares," Miles said.
    "Nobody cares."
    This year, state lawmakers debated a bill to create a special committee to investigate these "policing for profit" issues. That bill died in the last days of the legislative session.
    After Reby filed an appeal, and after NewsChannel 5 began investigating, the state agreed to return his money -- if he'd sign a statement waiving his constitutional rights and promising not to sue.
    They also made him come all the way from New Jersey, back to Monterey to pick up a check.
    He got the check, but no apology.
    "If they lied about everything in the report, why would they apologize?" Reby said.
    And, with that, he was ready to put Tennessee in his rearview mirror.
    "I really don't want to come back here," he said.
    As for the appeals process, Reby was able to provide us and the state with letters from his employers, showing that he had a legitimate source of income.
    It took him four months to get his money back, but it usually takes a lot longer for most people.
    And that, Miles said, works to the benefit of the police.
    He had two clients where police agreed to drop the cases in exchange for a cut of the money -- $1,000 in one case, $2,000 in another. In both cases, that was less than what they might have paid in attorney fees.
    Miles called that "extortion."
    E-mail: pwilliams@newschannel5.com
    When the government pays, the government controls.

  • #2
    That cop deserves a bullet.

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    • #3
      I was a record store before work and some stupid motherfucker smelling of weed whips out a 2-inch stack of 20s to pay for his shit. I can guarantee I know where that money came from.
      How do we forget ourselves? How do we forget our minds?

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      • #4
        He just sold a car on eBay?
        When the government pays, the government controls.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Geofster View Post
          I was a record store before work and some stupid motherfucker smelling of weed whips out a 2-inch stack of 20s to pay for his shit. I can guarantee I know where that money came from.
          his bank?

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          • #6
            Irony
            "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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            • #7
              So now the state gets to determine how much money you can carry around?

              I guarantee you that if a Tennessee cop pulls over Jerry Jones and found 20k on him, it would still be in Jerry's hands when the traffic stop was done.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gargamel View Post
                So now the state gets to determine how much money you can carry around?

                I guarantee you that if a Tennessee cop pulls over Jerry Jones and found 20k on him, it would still be in Jerry's hands when the traffic stop was done.
                Because Jerry would pull out his .44 Mag and knock some holes in the filth pig??
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                • #9
                  The Gestapo would be proud wouldn't they? I think saying "this cop deserves a bullet" is a bit of an understatement. This country was founded by putting bullets in people just like that guy.
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                    The Gestapo would be proud wouldn't they? I think saying "this cop deserves a bullet" is a bit of an understatement. This country was founded by putting bullets in people just like that guy.
                    hear-hear!

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                    • #11
                      I am very pro police, but I am very anti-this. My job often requires me to carry around large amounts of cash. I carry next to no proof as to why, but I do have to do it. What gives this guy the right to pull someone over and rob them with his badge?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ThreeFingerPete View Post
                        That cop deserves a bullet.
                        I would consider it armed robbery, and if in Texas, I would use my right to use deadly force to protect myself and my property.

                        Stevo
                        Originally posted by SSMAN
                        ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                        • #13
                          Don't worry, apparently the drug dealers and traffickers aren't so open with law enforcement due to lack of trust, so their money is never found...
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                          • #14
                            This shit is happening in some podunk city in east Texas also, I'll see if I can find it.

                            EDIT: here it is-

                            TENAHA, Texas— You can drive into this dusty fleck of a town near the Texas-Louisiana border if you're African-American, but you might not be able to drive out of it—at least not with your car, your cash, your jewelry or other valuables.

                            That's because the police here allegedly have found a way to strip motorists, many of them black, of their property without ever charging them with a crime. Instead they offer out-of-towners a grim choice: voluntarily sign over your belongings to the town, or face felony charges of money laundering or other serious crimes.

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                            More than 140 people reluctantly accepted that deal from June 2006 to June 2008, according to court records. Among them were a black grandmother from Akron, who surrendered $4,000 in cash after Tenaha police pulled her over, and an interracial couple from Houston, who gave up more than $6,000 after police threatened to seize their children and put them into foster care, the court documents show. Neither the grandmother nor the couple were charged with any crime.

                            Officials in Tenaha, situated along a heavily traveled highway connecting Houston with popular gambling destinations in Louisiana, say they are engaged in a battle against drug trafficking and call the search-and-seizure practice a legitimate use of the state's asset-forfeiture law. That law permits local police agencies to keep drug money and other property used in the commission of a crime and add the proceeds to their budgets.

                            "We try to enforce the law here," said George Bowers, mayor of the town of 1,046 residents, where boarded-up businesses outnumber open ones and City Hall sports a broken window. "We're not doing this to raise money. That's all I'm going to say at this point."

                            But civil rights lawyers call Tenaha's practice something else: highway robbery. The attorneys have filed a federal class-action lawsuit to stop what they contend is an unconstitutional perversion of the law's intent, aimed primarily at blacks who have done nothing wrong.

                            Tenaha officials "have developed an illegal 'stop and seize' practice of targeting, stopping, detaining, searching and often seizing property from apparently non-white citizens and those traveling with non-white citizens," asserts the lawsuit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Texas.

                            The property seizures are not just happening in Tenaha. In southern parts of Texas near the Mexican border, for example, Hispanics allege that they are being singled out.

                            According to a prominent state legislator, police agencies across Texas are wielding the asset-forfeiture law more aggressively to supplement their shrinking operating budgets.

                            "If used properly, it's a good law-enforcement tool to see that crime doesn't pay," said state Sen. John Whitmire, chairman of the Senate's Criminal Justice Committee. "But in this instance, where people are being pulled over and their property is taken with no charges filed and no convictions, I think that's theft."

                            David Guillory, an attorney in Nacogdoches who filed the federal lawsuit, said he combed through Shelby County court records from 2006 to 2008 and discovered nearly 200 cases in which Tenaha police seized cash and property from motorists. In about 50 of the cases, suspects were charged with drug possession.

                            But in 147 others, Guillory said the court records showed, police seized cash, jewelry, cell phones and sometimes even automobiles from motorists but never found any contraband or charged them with any crime. Of those, Guillory said he managed to contact 40 of the motorists directly—and discovered all but one of them were black.

                            "The whole thing is disproportionately targeted toward minorities, particularly African-Americans," Guillory said. "None of these people have been charged with a crime, none were engaged in anything that looked criminal. The sole factor is that they had something that looked valuable."

                            In some cases, police used the fact that motorists were carrying large amounts of cash as evidence that they must have been involved in laundering drug money, even though Guillory said each of the drivers he contacted could account for where the money had come from and why they were carrying it—such as for a gambling trip to Shreveport, La., or to purchase a used car from a private seller.

                            Once the motorists were detained, the police and the local Shelby County district attorney quickly drew up legal papers presenting them with an option: waive their rights to their cash and property or face felony charges for crimes such as money laundering—and the prospect of having to hire a lawyer and return to Shelby County multiple times to attend court sessions to contest the charges.

                            The process apparently is so routine in Tenaha that Guillory discovered pre-signed and pre-notarized police affidavits with blank spaces left for an officer to describe the property being seized.

                            Jennifer Boatright, her husband and two young children—a mixed-race family—were traveling from Houston to visit relatives in east Texas in April 2007 when Tenaha police pulled them over, alleging that they were driving in a left-turn lane.

                            After searching the car, the officers discovered what Boatright said was a gift for her sister: a small, unused glass pipe made for smoking marijuana. Although they found no drugs or other contraband, the police seized $6,037 that Boatright said the family was carrying to purchase a used car—and then threatened to turn their children, ages 10 and 1, over to Child Protective Services if the couple didn't agree to sign over their right to their cash.

                            "It was give them the money or they were taking our kids," Boatright said. "They suggested that we never bring it up again. We figured we better give them our cash and get the hell out of there."

                            Several months later, after Boatright and her husband contacted an attorney, Tenaha officials returned their money but offered no explanation or apology. The couple remain plaintiffs in the federal lawsuit.

                            Except for Tenaha's mayor, none of the defendants in the lawsuit, including Shelby County District Atty. Linda Russell and two Tenaha police officers, responded to requests from the Tribune for comment about their search-and-seizure practices. Lawyers for the defendants also declined to comment, as did several of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit.

                            But Whitmire says he doesn't need to await the suit's outcome to try to fix what he regards as a statewide problem. On Monday he introduced a bill in the state Legislature that would require police to go before a judge before attempting to seize property under the asset-forfeiture law—and ultimately Whitmire hopes to tighten the law further so that law-enforcement officials will be allowed to seize property only after a suspect is charged and convicted in a court.

                            "The law has gotten away from what was intended, which was to take the profits of a bad guy's crime spree and use it for additional crime-fighting," Whitmire said. "Now it's largely being used to pay police salaries—and it's being abused because you don't even have to be a bad guy to lose your property."
                            Stevo
                            Originally posted by SSMAN
                            ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dville_gt View Post
                              his bank?
                              Nonsense, he couldn't have possibly waited for those ahead of him to complete their transactions.
                              "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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