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I love how this guy uses the arguement that christians are narcocistic about their beliefs that god only loves them, and that all the bad/good things happen in a way only they understand. Yet he completely fulfills that he himself is the one who is narcosistical by believing he has the depth and knowledge to understand god's will in all of it's entirely.
also the bible doesn't support slavery. There are numerous statements in the bible that say to treat your workers as YOURSELF, in both the pay and rewards they reap. What moron takes this from the words written in the bible? Research it yourself! it is all there for you , but you will be too lazy just like this self perpetuating jackass spreading in-correct info around !
I know you will , because you took the time to post something this easy to refute, but didn't take the time to look up one iota of claim he makes like the bible supports 'slavery'.
Slavery has been many things, including practically the verbatim definition of what we call a JOB now. but you won't try to figure that our yourself, you already know it all right ?
All this guy does is take any item he can nitpick over 2000 yrs that many men have done christian or not and propose that all the bad things were done were because of christians or because of God (christian).
Much of it isn't true, or is being presented in a watered down way for ppl that have done NO reading or understanding of the bible of their own. This is the definition of what naysayers try to do. They have no interest in learning for themselves that the ways of the old testament and sacrafice have NOTHING to do with what Jesus came to teach , instead they use it as misinformed and misguided attempts to slander what the bible attempts to teach you. Oh he managed to hit that point as well about the sacrifices....LOL at this guy
Just listening to this guy and his cocky attitude should give you an idea that he never tried to understand anything in the bible or the beliefs of the followers. Say like the real progressive christian movement .
No..... instead he has already arrived at the narcosistic assumption that he understands all he needs to know by just looking at history. Nevermind that history is rife with examples of stupidity in the human race and 'accomplishments' of death and destruction.
Hey let's just blame them all on God and use that as our arguement to the nonexistance of God .
Or hey if God would let that happen, then there just must not be a God !
This is like a 5 yr old talking about what he understands of what the bible is.
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Originally posted by futant View PostI love how this guy uses the arguement that christians are narcocistic about their beliefs that god only loves them, and that all the bad/good things happen in a way only they understand. Yet he completely fulfills that he himself is the one who is narcosistical by believing he has the depth and knowledge to understand god's will in all of it's entirely.
also the bible doesn't support slavery. There are numerous statements in the bible that say to treat your workers as YOURSELF, in both the pay and rewards they reap. What moron takes this from the words written in the bible? Research it yourself! it is all there for you , but you will be too lazy just like this self perpetuating jackass spreading in-correct info around !
I know you will , because you took the time to post something this easy to refute, but didn't take the time to look up one iota of claim he makes like the bible supports 'slavery'.
Slavery has been many things, including practically the verbatim definition of what we call a JOB now. but you won't try to figure that our yourself, you already know it all right ?
All this guy does is take any item he can nitpick over 2000 yrs that many men have done christian or not and propose that all the bad things were done were because of christians or because of God (christian).
Much of it isn't true, or is being presented in a watered down way for ppl that have done NO reading or understanding of the bible of their own. This is the definition of what naysayers try to do. They have no interest in learning for themselves that the ways of the old testament and sacrafice have NOTHING to do with what Jesus came to teach , instead they use it as misinformed and misguided attempts to slander what the bible attempts to teach you. Oh he managed to hit that point as well about the sacrifices....LOL at this guy
Just listening to this guy and his cocky attitude should give you an idea that he never tried to understand anything in the bible or the beliefs of the followers. Say like the real progressive christian movement .
No..... instead he has already arrived at the narcosistic assumption that he understands all he needs to know by just looking at history. Nevermind that history is rife with examples of stupidity in the human race and 'accomplishments' of death and destruction.
Hey let's just blame them all on God and use that as our arguement to the nonexistance of God .
Or hey if God would let that happen, then there just must not be a God !
This is like a 5 yr old talking about what he understands of what the bible is.Slow moving projects
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Originally posted by Superwho View PostIf you can create a word like narcosistical and then proceed to skullfuck a spellcheck system, why couldn't someone else create a religion?
youre right , it's worth my time to give a shit about you spell check gaylords now roaming all over dfwstangs.
dude i have shit to do, that's why. I don't care
I really could care less about people like you who think spelling trumps all.
Let me guess you spend all day making sure you text perfectly too LMAO AT YOU
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Originally posted by futant View Postyou guys are so predictable it's just sad!
youre right , it's worth my time to give a shit about you spell check gaylords now roaming all over dfwstangs.
dude i have shit to do, that's why. I don't care
I really could care less about people like you who think spelling trumps all.
Let me guess you spend all day making sure you text perfectly too LMAO AT YOU
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Originally posted by futant View Postyou guys are so predictable it's just sad!
youre right , it's worth my time to give a shit about you spell check gaylords now roaming all over dfwstangs.
dude i have shit to do, that's why. I don't care
I really could care less about people like you who think spelling trumps all.
Let me guess you spend all day making sure you text perfectly too LMAO AT YOUSlow moving projects
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Originally posted by futant View PostI love how this guy uses the arguement that christians are narcocistic about their beliefs that god only loves them, and that all the bad/good things happen in a way only they understand. Yet he completely fulfills that he himself is the one who is narcosistical by believing he has the depth and knowledge to understand god's will in all of it's entirely.
also the bible doesn't support slavery. There are numerous statements in the bible that say to treat your workers as YOURSELF, in both the pay and rewards they reap. What moron takes this from the words written in the bible? Research it yourself! it is all there for you , but you will be too lazy just like this self perpetuating jackass spreading in-correct info around !
I know you will , because you took the time to post something this easy to refute, but didn't take the time to look up one iota of claim he makes like the bible supports 'slavery'.
Slavery has been many things, including practically the verbatim definition of what we call a JOB now. but you won't try to figure that our yourself, you already know it all right ?
All this guy does is take any item he can nitpick over 2000 yrs that many men have done christian or not and propose that all the bad things were done were because of christians or because of God (christian).
Much of it isn't true, or is being presented in a watered down way for ppl that have done NO reading or understanding of the bible of their own. This is the definition of what naysayers try to do. They have no interest in learning for themselves that the ways of the old testament and sacrafice have NOTHING to do with what Jesus came to teach , instead they use it as misinformed and misguided attempts to slander what the bible attempts to teach you. Oh he managed to hit that point as well about the sacrifices....LOL at this guy
Just listening to this guy and his cocky attitude should give you an idea that he never tried to understand anything in the bible or the beliefs of the followers. Say like the real progressive christian movement .
No..... instead he has already arrived at the narcosistic assumption that he understands all he needs to know by just looking at history. Nevermind that history is rife with examples of stupidity in the human race and 'accomplishments' of death and destruction.
Hey let's just blame them all on God and use that as our arguement to the nonexistance of God .
Or hey if God would let that happen, then there just must not be a God !
This is like a 5 yr old talking about what he understands of what the bible is.
As far as your interpretation of what's being said there, you aren't understanding what he's saying. He wasn't saying that "because god let these things happen, there is no god" He's saying that because god lets those things happen, he's an asshole and unworthy of your worship.
I only spoke on a few of your points and didn't attack your grammar. I don't feel like answering any more of them because your whole post stinks of an unintelligent diatribe in which you've failed to comprehend what's being said.
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one eleven minute clip out of a 2+ hour long debate? Really?
Totally out of context, and I dont see how he "CRUSHES" christian dogma. He simply says if God is good, why is there evil.
There is truly no such thing as evil. Evil is simply the absense of Good. Just like there is no such thing as cold. Cold is simply the absense of heat. Dark is the absense of light, etc, etc, etc....
If there is no "good" then there can be no "evil" and his entire lecture (11 minute jibber jabber) is completely null and void....correct?
Here is the rebuttal to that...
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Lets get to the whole thing, I didn't watch it all, but it's a damn good debate. This is just the "Second Installment"
From the description of the whole video...
The second annual God Debate features atheist neuroscientist Sam Harris and Evangelical Christian apologist William Lane Craig as they debate the topic: "Is Good From God?"
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so what is it?
read this on evil:
As for cold, its defined as having less or low heat, not more cold.
here on cold:
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No Such Thing As "cold."
Though the term "cold" has plenty of meaning in the everyday world, in physics terminology, it does not. Cold and heat are analogous to darkness and light: again, darkness means something in our daily experience, but in physical terms, darkness is simply the absence of light. To speak of cold or darkness as entities unto themselves is rather like saying, after spending 20 dollars, "I have 20 non-dollars in my pocket."
If you grasp a snowball in your hand, of course, your hand gets cold. The human mind perceives this as a transfer of cold from the snowball, but, in fact, exactly the opposite happens: heat moves from your hand to the snow, and if enough heat enters the snowball, it will melt. At the same time, the departure of heat from your hand results in a loss of internal energy near the surface of your hand, which you experience as a sensation of coldness.2009 Mercedes C63 AMG
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