North & South Korea

[01vnms4v]

He doesn't have the BALLS to attack the south, just like his father. They just want to make sure everyone knows they are there.

[LANTIRN]

When I was in basic back in 97' we were told that it wasn't a matter of IF the war would resume but rather an issue of WHEN. It doesn't make the news but bullets have been flying back and forth from the north and south sides of the DMZ for many years.

^^^This, and that was from when I was stationed at Kunsan in 2006. I can't remember the exact numbers but the US casualties are estimated at somewhere between 75 - 90%. We have the technology, but the north would win out of sheer manpower. Basically the only survivors they expected were pilots. If you read about the Korean War when the North made their big push south and had UN forces cornered around Busan with the casualties that resulted it will give you an idea of the severity of the situation. One of the air bases was decimated during the North's push south and they expect pretty much the same thing the second go around.

[stevo]

I wonder if the price of kimchee is going to rise now.

Stevo

[Downs]

When my dad was stationed there a few years after this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident

They didn't turn the tide till China came in on their side and started the push South. IMO on their own they are boned. The only thing they have going for them is a brainwashed mass of folks that are willing to commit wave after wave of bodies into the waiting bullets at the DMZ. As long as we can sling enough lead and get enough airstrikes in we'll be ok but I'd agree that it will be bloody up until we can get reinforcements in.

[LANTIRN]

When my dad was stationed there a few years after this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident

They didn't turn the tide till China came in on their side and started the push South. IMO on their own they are boned. The only thing they have going for them is a brainwashed mass of folks that are willing to commit wave after wave of bodies into the waiting bullets at the DMZ. As long as we can sling enough lead and get enough airstrikes in we'll be ok but I'd agree that it will be bloody up until we can get reinforcements in.

They won't have to go through the DMZ as they have tunneled under it.

[SC457A]

Ever played HOMEFRONT? They're trying to put an EMP satellite in orbit lol :P

Lol....

[Forever_frost]

^^^This, and that was from when I was stationed at Kunsan in 2006. I can't remember the exact numbers but the US casualties are estimated at somewhere between 75 - 90%. We have the technology, but the north would win out of sheer manpower. Basically the only survivors they expected were pilots. If you read about the Korean War when the North made their big push south and had UN forces cornered around Busan with the casualties that resulted it will give you an idea of the severity of the situation. One of the air bases was decimated during the North's push south and they expect pretty much the same thing the second go around.

This as well. We were told at Camp Greaves in 02 that if the North pushes south, we'd never hear the impact of the mortars that have targeted us since the Korean war. We'd all be dead and we're just there to buy time for Seoul to muster a response. Hell, if we did live through the bombardment, our task was to secure Freedom Bridge. Officially it was to hold it so we could push back north when we got the firepower. Unofficially, it was to keep the South from blowing the bridge and trapping us on teh wrong side of the river

[Stephen]

This as well. We were told at Camp Greaves in 02 that if the North pushes south, we'd never hear the impact of the mortars that have targeted us since the Korean war. We'd all be dead and we're just there to buy time for Seoul to muster a response. Hell, if we did live through the bombardment, our task was to secure Freedom Bridge. Officially it was to hold it so we could push back north when we got the firepower. Unofficially, it was to keep the South from blowing the bridge and trapping us on teh wrong side of the river

Scale it down all the way.. if the montagues(NK) and capulets (SK) had an ongoing problem... why not a full attack from SK? North korea is a worldwide threat as if the usa goes down the world trade would plunder.. hell im over 30 and would enlist for this one... My son's well being is at stake.

Maybe i'm way off but we should've reacted to these threats a while back!

[BP]

Even if the South did initiate an attack and completely obliterated the North's military leadership you still have 24 million brainwashed citizens to feed that'll try to kill you every chance they get. China needs to go in and occupy the country, it's their communist little brother that's being an asshole. They'll be the ones that suffer the most if this escalates into full war again.

[Duncan]

'China pledges North Korea ties amid rocket tensions.' Looks like China has given (or sold) a missile and/or transport to N. Korea..



China's president pledged strong ties with North Korea, amid serious tensions between the two Koreas in the wake of Pyongyang's failed rocket launch.

Hu Jintao's promise came at a meeting with a top Workers' Party delegation leader in Beijing on Monday.

It came as North Korea threatened "unprecedented action" against Seoul.

Meanwhile the US says it has raised allegations with China that a missile launcher seen in Pyongyang last week was of Chinese origin.

Tension on the Korean peninsula is high following the failed rocket launch on 13 April. Pyongyang said it was putting a satellite into orbit but critics said the launch was a disguised test of missile technology banned under UN resolutions.

South Korea also says there are signs that North Korea is planning a third nuclear test.

North Korea had almost completed preparations for the test which will take place ''soon'', an unidentified source told Reuters.

This source, the news agency said, has correctly predicted past events, including North Korea's first nuclear test in 2006.
'Peace and stability'

China - which is North Korea's closest ally and biggest trading partner - did not block UN condemnation of the launch.

But in the meeting on Monday with the Workers' Party international relations chief, Kim Yong-il, Mr Hu emphasised close ties between the two nations.
In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, Chinese President Hu Jintao, right, greets North Korean envoy Kim Yong Il, head of the international department of the Workers' Party of Korea, during their meeting in Beijing on 23 April, 2012 President Hu (r) said China and North Korea will work for peace and stability on the Korean peninsula

"We will carry on this tradition... boost strategic communication and coordination on key international issues and work for peace and stability on the Korean peninsula," state television quoted him as saying.

China - seen as the country with the greatest degree of influence over North Korea - has repeatedly called for calm on the Korean peninsula, as tensions between the two Koreas have risen.

On Monday North Korea warned of "unprecedented" action against South Korea's ruling establishment, in response to its criticism of the rocket launch.

A special operation to begin "soon" would "reduce its target to ashes", the North Korean military said in an unusually strong statement. On Friday North Korea also held a rally calling for the death of South Korea's president.

South Korea, meanwhile, said last week it had deployed new missiles capable of hitting any target in North Korea.
Vehicle probe

Meanwhile, White House spokesman Jay Carney said in a briefing on Monday that Washington had raised questions over a mobile missile launch vehicle seen in a North Korean military parade earlier this month.

Analysts believe that the 16-wheel missile transporter-erector-launcher (TEL) seen carrying what appeared to be a new missile may have been of Chinese origin.

Last week Jane's Defence Weekly, citing an unnamed official, reported that the UN Security Council was investigating the claims.

If it had supplied the technology or vehicle, China could be violating UN resolutions passed after North Korean nuclear and missile tests in 2006 and 2009, the report suggested.

Asked about the matter, White House spokesman Jay Carney said the US would "continue to work with the international community, including China, to enforce sanctions against North Korea's ballistic missile program and nuclear programme".

"We've raised the allegations with the Chinese government ... as part of our ongoing close consultations on North Korea," he said.

China says it has abided by UN sanctions on North Korea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17821717

[Marss]

Stevo

Haha. Just figured the way oil prices go up when something like this happens in the middle east, or the way people freak out about an election and drive gun and ammo prices up.... Not much coming out of Korea.