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    I haven't verified each point, but found this article interesting:



    In no particular order, here are 50 things about our economy that blow my mind:

    50. The S&P 500 is down 3% from 2000. But a version of the index that holds all 500 companies in equal amounts (rather than skewed by market cap) is up nearly 90%.

    49. According to economist Tyler Cowen, "Thirty years ago, college graduates made 40 percent more than high school graduates, but now the gap is about 83 percent."

    48. Of all non-farm jobs created since June 2009, 88% have gone to men. "The share of men saying the economy was improving jumped to 41 percent in March, compared with 26 percent of women," reports Bloomberg.

    47. A record $6 billion will be spent on the 2012 elections, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Adjusted for inflation, that's 60% more than the 2000 elections.

    46. In 2010, nearly half of Americans lived in a household that received direct government benefits. That's up from 37.7% in 1998.

    45. Adjusted for inflation, federal tax revenue was the same in 2009 as it was 1997, even though the U.S. population grew by 37 million during that period.

    44. In November 2009, the nationwide unemployment was around 10%. But dig into demographics, and the rates are incredibly skewed. The unemployment rate for young, uneducated African-American males was 48.5%. For Caucasian females over age 45 with a college degree, it was 3.7%.

    43. About the same number of people was awarded bachelor's degrees in 2010 as filed for personal bankruptcy (1.6 million).

    42. According to The Wall Street Journal, "U.S. refineries are producing more gasoline and diesel than ever. And Americans' gasoline consumption is at an 11-year-low."

    41. Americans spend an average of 1.8% of their income on alcohol and tobacco. In the U.K., it's 4.8%.

    40. In 2009, 5% of Americans accounted for 50% of all health care costs.

    39. As the market was "flat" from 2000 to 2010, S&P 500 companies paid out more than $2 trillion in dividends.

    38. The Census Bureau now classifies nearly 1 in 6 Americans as living in poverty.

    37. The number of Americans who don't have health insurance: 49.9 million.

    36. The share of entitlements like Social Security and Medicare going to the bottom fifth of households (based on income) has fallen from 54% in 1979 to 36% in 2007, according to Binyamin Appelbaum of The New York Times.

    35. According to Goldman Sachs' Jim O'Neill, China's growth creates the equivalent of a new Greece every 90 days.

    34. With a drop in jobs came a surge in grad-school aspirations. The number of people taking the LSAT (law school entrance) exam surged 20% from 2008 to 2009.

    33. From 2007 to 2009, Sheldon Adelson's personal net worth fell by $24 billion. That's about equal to what the federal government spends on agriculture every year. (He's since made most of it back.)

    32. The entire town of Pray, Mont., was listed for sale last month. The asking price is $1.4 million (or what Sheldon Adelson lost every 30 minutes in 2008).

    31. A full 17 years after college graduation, Yale economist Lisa Kahn found those who began their careers in tough economic times earned less than those who started their careers when the economy was strong.

    30. Americans age 60 and older owe $36 billion in student loans.

    29. The average vehicle on the road today is 10.8 years old -- an all-time high, and two years older than in 2000.

    28. Just five companies, Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL ) , Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT ) , Cisco, Google (Nasdaq: GOOG ) , and Pfizer (NYSE: PFE ) , now hold nearly one-quarter of all corporate cash, equal to more than a quarter-trillion dollars.

    27. In 2011, the federal government took in $2.3 trillion in tax revenue, and spent the exact same amount on military, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid alone.

    26. Auto sales in regions where debt accumulation was highest during the bubble years are down some 40% since 2005. In regions where debt accumulation was the lowest, sales are actually up 30%.

    25. According to Pew, for every dollar newspapers make in new digital advertising, they've lost $7 from traditional print media.

    24. In the S&P 500, 334 companies earned more profit in 2011 than in 2007, when the economy peaked. The median gain is 38%.

    23. According to economist Michael Spence, sectors of the economy that have no direct foreign competition added more than 27 million jobs from 1990 to 2008. Those that do added almost none.

    22. Capital expenditures among S&P 500 companies set a record in the fourth quarter of 2011.

    21. Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX ) is now responsible for about one-third of all Internet bandwidth.

    20. The average salary for a Silicon Valley tech worker surpassed $100,000 in 2011.

    19. In 2009 and 2010, 93% of the nation's income growth went to 1% of wage earners, according to economist Emmanuel Saez; 15,600 households captured 37% of all national growth.

    18. Growth in health care spending in 2010 was the lowest in half a century.

    17. In 2010, President Barack Obama set what looked like an unrealistic goal of doubling U.S. exports by 2015. After growing an average of 16% a year since, the goal is on track to be met ahead of schedule.

    16. Good news: 400,000 manufacturing jobs have been added since 2009. Bad news: Manufacturing employment is still down almost 6 million since 2000.

    15. Total government employment has shrunk by almost 700,000 since 2009.

    14. According to the IMS Institute for Healthcare Informatics, the number of prescription drugs issued fell by 1.1% last year, and doctor visits fell 4.7%.

    13. We imported 60.3% of our oil in 2005. In 2010, that figure was 49.2%, and will likely drop further as domestic production rises.

    12. For the first time since 1949, the U.S. is now a net exporter of fuel products like gasoline and diesel.

    11. The period from March 2009 to March 2012 was one of the strongest three-year market rallies in history -- stronger, in fact, than the 1996-1999 bull market.

    10. According to the McKinsey Global Institute, 30% of companies in 2011 had job openings for six months or longer, but couldn't find the right person to hire.

    9. Adjusted for inflation, the bursting of the housing bubble destroyed wealth equal to half a 1950s America.

    8. At 66.9%, the homeownership rate in America is down considerably from the 2004 peak, but is still above the long-term average of 66%.

    7. U.S. apartment vacancies are now at a decade low.

    6. A 2008 Swedish study found that unemployed people gradually lose the ability to read.

    5. Mike Konczal, a fellow at the Roosevelt Institute, ran the numbers and found that as unemployment goes up, the divorce rate goes down.

    4. According to the Airline Quality Rating, 2011 was the best year ever for airline industry performance (lost baggage, on-time departures, etc.).

    3. The combined assets of Wal-Mart's (NYSE: WMT ) Walton family is equal to that of the bottom 150 million Americans.

    2. As the economy tanked in 2009, the top 25 hedge fund managers collectively earned $25.3 billion. On average, that works out to about $2,000 a minute for each manager.

    1. Household debt payments as a percent of income are now the lowest since 1994.
    Originally posted by davbrucas
    I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

    Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

    You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

  • #2
    A fool has now bookmarked the fool...

    42, 13, and 12 are pretty interesting. Now well enough equipped to debate the economy related numbers.
    www.allforoneroofing.com

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    • #3
      I actually thought #50 was the most interesting.
      Originally posted by davbrucas
      I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

      Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

      You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by slow99 View Post
        I actually thought #50 was the most interesting.
        Not to mention the fact that earnings are through the roof in comparison.
        Originally posted by racrguy
        What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
        Originally posted by racrguy
        Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
          Not to mention the fact that earnings are through the roof in comparison.
          Exactly. It's also no secret that small-cap outperforms, but Jesus.
          Originally posted by davbrucas
          I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

          Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

          You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by slow99 View Post
            I actually thought #50 was the most interesting.
            I figured that was manipulation of data to reflect that which is not. Is there a short answer as to how that happens?
            www.allforoneroofing.com

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mikec View Post
              I figured that was manipulation of data to reflect that which is not. Is there a short answer as to how that happens?
              Small cap to mid cap companies have dramatically outperformed. A market cap weighted index places more emphasis on the large cap names.
              Last edited by slow99; 04-20-2012, 07:34 AM.
              Originally posted by davbrucas
              I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

              Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

              You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                Small cap to mid cap companies have dramatically outperformed. A market cap weighted index places more emphasis on the large cap names.


                Aaah, that turns the light on!

                Is this likely due to the top heavy/large salaries and bonuses nature of these companies removing too much revenue/earnings from the larger companies? Or could be a failing sector of industry I suppose, or even a combination...

                Guess I need to actually look at the list to see which companies are at the top to more fully understand what is the cause of the effect...

                The implications are definitely interesting...
                www.allforoneroofing.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mikec View Post
                  Aaah, that turns the light on!

                  Is this likely due to the top heavy/large salaries and bonuses nature of these companies removing too much revenue/earnings from the larger companies? Or could be a failing sector of industry I suppose, or even a combination...

                  Guess I need to actually look at the list to see which companies are at the top to more fully understand what is the cause of the effect...

                  The implications are definitely interesting...
                  Small caps names are more volatile - generally - for myriad reasons. This is a generalized statement, before some yahoo comes in and tries to "show me". More volatility means outperformance happens too. Of course, outperformance would be necessary to justify increased risk.
                  Originally posted by davbrucas
                  I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                  Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                  You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                  • #10
                    Oh, and yes, we were the only one out of 38 wall street analysts with a "sell" rating on RVBD, thanks for asking!
                    Originally posted by davbrucas
                    I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                    Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                    You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                    • #11
                      Let me take a shot at this...
                      Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                      I haven't verified each point, but found this article interesting:



                      In no particular order, here are 50 things about our economy that blow my mind:

                      50. The S&P 500 is down 3% from 2000. But a version of the index that holds all 500 companies in equal amounts (rather than skewed by market cap) is up nearly 90%.
                      Big deal. Money is consolidating in fewer companies.

                      49. According to economist Tyler Cowen, "Thirty years ago, college graduates made 40 percent more than high school graduates, but now the gap is about 83 percent."
                      Yep. We got MBAs flippin' the burgers that the po folk usually do. Minimum wage > No wage. Got them beat, there!

                      48. Of all non-farm jobs created since June 2009, 88% have gone to men. "The share of men saying the economy was improving jumped to 41 percent in March, compared with 26 percent of women," reports Bloomberg.
                      When you have a flooded job hunting market, it's easier to pick and chose. Men > women. Employers don't have to settle as much as they once did.
                      47. A record $6 billion will be spent on the 2012 elections, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Adjusted for inflation, that's 60% more than the 2000 elections.
                      Funded by the crooks who benefitted from government bail-outs, like that worm, Buffett.

                      46. In 2010, nearly half of Americans lived in a household that received direct government benefits. That's up from 37.7% in 1998.
                      Imagine what the number would be if they didn't cut off unemployment at 99 weeks LOL

                      45. Adjusted for inflation, federal tax revenue was the same in 2009 as it was 1997, even though the U.S. population grew by 37 million during that period.
                      CPI numbers? I'd like to see that under some other figures like shadow stats. Now THAT would be entertainment (and probably more accurate).

                      44. In November 2009, the nationwide unemployment was around 10%. But dig into demographics, and the rates are incredibly skewed. The unemployment rate for young, uneducated African-American males was 48.5%. For Caucasian females over age 45 with a college degree, it was 3.7%.
                      Pick and choose (not gonna throw up a greater or less than formula on that one LOL).

                      43. About the same number of people was awarded bachelor's degrees in 2010 as filed for personal bankruptcy (1.6 million).
                      Because those freakin' educated geniuses learned about stratigic defaults in college.

                      42. According to The Wall Street Journal, "U.S. refineries are producing more gasoline and diesel than ever. And Americans' gasoline consumption is at an 11-year-low."
                      But it's not speculation driving the market, right?

                      41. Americans spend an average of 1.8% of their income on alcohol and tobacco. In the U.K., it's 4.8%.
                      Shiiiiiiiiiit...

                      40. In 2009, 5% of Americans accounted for 50% of all health care costs.
                      Medical marijuana

                      39. As the market was "flat" from 2000 to 2010, S&P 500 companies paid out more than $2 trillion in dividends.
                      Their bad...

                      38. The Census Bureau now classifies nearly 1 in 6 Americans as living in poverty.
                      They must not be receiving their dividends.

                      37. The number of Americans who don't have health insurance: 49.9 million.
                      Let's revisit this one 6 months or so after the election.

                      36. The share of entitlements like Social Security and Medicare going to the bottom fifth of households (based on income) has fallen from 54% in 1979 to 36% in 2007, according to Binyamin Appelbaum of The New York Times.
                      Good thing they did that one in 2007, before the Baby Boomers started filing.

                      35. According to Goldman Sachs' Jim O'Neill, China's growth creates the equivalent of a new Greece every 90 days.
                      And Goldman steals twice that much when they do their insider "huttles," but only pay out a fraction of what they made in fines. (You like how I brought that together?)

                      34. With a drop in jobs came a surge in grad-school aspirations. The number of people taking the LSAT (law school entrance) exam surged 20% from 2008 to 2009.
                      The way bankers, politicians and corporations are being more and more open (and rampant) with blatant theft, it only makes sense for a secure career choice.

                      33. From 2007 to 2009, Sheldon Adelson's personal net worth fell by $24 billion. That's about equal to what the federal government spends on agriculture every year. (He's since made most of it back.)
                      hell of a market bounce back on this inflated dollar getting pumped back into the market.

                      32. The entire town of Pray, Mont., was listed for sale last month. The asking price is $1.4 million (or what Sheldon Adelson lost every 30 minutes in 2008).
                      Since I've never lost that much and certainly not any rate like that, I can call that dumbass a dumbass.

                      31. A full 17 years after college graduation, Yale economist Lisa Kahn found those who began their careers in tough economic times earned less than those who started their careers when the economy was strong.
                      Because during the "tough" times, it's usually just crooks making the real money.

                      30. Americans age 60 and older owe $36 billion in student loans.
                      Wait for the defaults to start rolling in. It's coming.

                      29. The average vehicle on the road today is 10.8 years old -- an all-time high, and two years older than in 2000.
                      Better build of cars.

                      28. Just five companies, Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL ) , Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT ) , Cisco, Google (Nasdaq: GOOG ) , and Pfizer (NYSE: PFE ) , now hold nearly one-quarter of all corporate cash, equal to more than a quarter-trillion dollars.
                      Holding cash... HOLDING IT! Watch the ones doing it right and you might be able to figure out what's coming up.

                      27. In 2011, the federal government took in $2.3 trillion in tax revenue, and spent the exact same amount on military, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid alone.
                      If they don't run a deficit, how can they justify asking for more money?

                      26. Auto sales in regions where debt accumulation was highest during the bubble years are down some 40% since 2005. In regions where debt accumulation was the lowest, sales are actually up 30%.
                      I blame it on the Ecoboost.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                        25. According to Pew, for every dollar newspapers make in new digital advertising, they've lost $7 from traditional print media.
                        But the obituaries are so much funnier in print!

                        24. In the S&P 500, 334 companies earned more profit in 2011 than in 2007, when the economy peaked. The median gain is 38%.
                        Zero-risk, free loans are a mother fucker.

                        23. According to economist Michael Spence, sectors of the economy that have no direct foreign competition added more than 27 million jobs from 1990 to 2008. Those that do added almost none.
                        Military Industrial Complex is what moves our economy. I've never seen money flowing like it has in the last 36 months. I also have to agree to a "Buy American" clause in contracts I win. It is also a limited number of accredited suppliers.

                        22. Capital expenditures among S&P 500 companies set a record in the fourth quarter of 2011.
                        Inflationwha?

                        21. Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX ) is now responsible for about one-third of all Internet bandwidth.
                        I'll fix that right now... www.hardsextube.com

                        20. The average salary for a Silicon Valley tech worker surpassed $100,000 in 2011.
                        And it isn't even keeping up with what is needed to cover the cost of living out there.

                        19. In 2009 and 2010, 93% of the nation's income growth went to 1% of wage earners, according to economist Emmanuel Saez; 15,600 households captured 37% of all national growth.
                        Ya, executives' cutbacks was just posturing for a brief period.

                        18. Growth in health care spending in 2010 was the lowest in half a century.
                        Because no one has money. They're just putting up with being sick.

                        17. In 2010, President Barack Obama set what looked like an unrealistic goal of doubling U.S. exports by 2015. After growing an average of 16% a year since, the goal is on track to be met ahead of schedule.
                        Exporting troops

                        16. Good news: 400,000 manufacturing jobs have been added since 2009. Bad news: Manufacturing employment is still down almost 6 million since 2000.
                        Thank God for Obama holding hiring fairs!

                        15. Total government employment has shrunk by almost 700,000 since 2009.
                        All of Obama's staff is bailing on him.

                        14. According to the IMS Institute for Healthcare Informatics, the number of prescription drugs issued fell by 1.1% last year, and doctor visits fell 4.7%.
                        But leeching is up 54% because it's cheaper.

                        13. We imported 60.3% of our oil in 2005. In 2010, that figure was 49.2%, and will likely drop further as domestic production rises.
                        Peak oil over in the Middle East has been reached.

                        12. For the first time since 1949, the U.S. is now a net exporter of fuel products like gasoline and diesel.
                        Ya, but what about raw crude?

                        11. The period from March 2009 to March 2012 was one of the strongest three-year market rallies in history -- stronger, in fact, than the 1996-1999 bull market.
                        Big dead cat bounce.

                        10. According to the McKinsey Global Institute, 30% of companies in 2011 had job openings for six months or longer, but couldn't find the right person to hire.
                        Because they were at McDonald's and couldn't get time off for an interview.

                        9. Adjusted for inflation, the bursting of the housing bubble destroyed wealth equal to half a 1950s America.
                        Those dumbasses weren't complaining when they were borrowing against that fake-ass equity they had just long enough to get some loans.

                        8. At 66.9%, the homeownership rate in America is down considerably from the 2004 peak, but is still above the long-term average of 66%.
                        Just because banks are holding off on foreclosing on most properties so they can stay on their books, listed well above true market value. Ah, to hide real earning numbers...

                        7. U.S. apartment vacancies are now at a decade low.
                        And it's starting to drive up rent averages. LMFAO! We're going to run out of feet to shoot ourselves in!

                        6. A 2008 Swedish study found that unemployed people gradually lose the ability to read.
                        Filing is all automated now. No worries.

                        5. Mike Konczal, a fellow at the Roosevelt Institute, ran the numbers and found that as unemployment goes up, the divorce rate goes down.
                        Cheaper to keep her. Also, try picking up a hooker with no money.

                        4. According to the Airline Quality Rating, 2011 was the best year ever for airline industry performance (lost baggage, on-time departures, etc.).
                        You think any of them are going to fuck off now? Heeeeell naw!

                        3. The combined assets of Wal-Mart's (NYSE: WMT ) Walton family is equal to that of the bottom 150 million Americans.
                        Ironically, they are most of Walmart's most valuable employees AND customers (same people).

                        2. As the economy tanked in 2009, the top 25 hedge fund managers collectively earned $25.3 billion. On average, that works out to about $2,000 a minute for each manager.
                        There's money to be made both ways and that collapse was the biggest, easiest to call, sure thing in probably the history of the market.

                        1. Household debt payments as a percent of income are now the lowest since 1994.
                        Most loans have already defaulted.
                        That just my 2 cents...

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