Ron Paul running as an independent?

[ram57ta]

Anyone here think there is at least the chance that THIS presidential election could be the LAST presidential election in the United States?

Just curious what responses that might get.

[cyclonescott]

This is what Romney really thinks about a telapromter

http://gawker.com/5901344/how-sean-hannity-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-teleprompters?tag=mittromney

[Sean88gt]

Anyone here think there is at least the chance that THIS presidential election could be the LAST presidential election in the United States?

Just curious what responses that might get.

That has been discussed before. Are you thinking Obama would go after the dictator for life? Or that the country would just degrade into a giant shithole?

[tribaltalon]

i dont think obama would go for anything like that.. but the country could get pretty royally fucked. Our only hope would be overloading congress with republicans that actually have balls to try and negate some of the fucking retarded shit he's going to try and unload on us as a lame duck.

[ram57ta]

That has been discussed before. Are you thinking Obama would go after the dictator for life? Or that the country would just degrade into a giant shithole?

While I wouldn't put it past Obama to try and find a way to dissolve the 2 term restriction if he could.....I am more or less asking who sees the possibility looming of a complete collapse of our current government...which could result in a new government being formed. If the widespread corruption and election fraud a LOT of people fear comes true in November of this year.....I could see widespread rebellion happening.

[Vertnut]

I vote guns. Romney has the worst rating of any of the nominees by far. Consequently, I'm writing in Paul.

Don't give a damn what anyone has to say about it either as I do not like Romney and truly believe that the the only difference between he and the dictator in chief is melanin level. And the ability to speak without a teleprompter...

To say that, it's obvious you've failed to really look at other candidates, other than listen to the media. We will agree to disagree. Romney came from a VERY liberal state, where his job was a lot different. He has acknowledged that there's a big difference in what was done in Mass. and what the country needs. Whoever gets the nod to go on the ballot, will get my vote.

I vote for the supreme court. You lose ONE supreme to Obama, your guns and a lot of other rights will be G-O-N-E.

[Vertnut]

And while it's slanted, and only voted on, this far, by dumbasses (in the popular opinion), Paul has 70% thus far in the poll.

Half are IF he's on the ballot, correct?

[mikec]

To say that, it's obvious you've failed to really look at other candidates, other than listen to the media. We will agree to disagree. Romney came from a VERY liberal state, where his job was a lot different. He has acknowledged that there's a big difference in what was done in Mass. and what the country needs. Whoever gets the nod to go on the ballot, will get my vote.

I vote for the supreme court. You lose ONE supreme to Obama, your guns and a lot of other rights will be G-O-N-E.

What do the other candidates have to do with this, at this point? Romney is the choice of the party, so the others are irrelevant, correct?

And completely agreed on the court. Then we get to the whole "we're in Texas, what does it matter how we vote" line of reasoning. I hold this as true, so it doesn't really matter if I choose to pencil in Paul, does it?

Half are IF he's on the ballot, correct?

It was a loosely phrased observation, implying support of the candidate. Currently it's down to 68%, in general support, in one form or another.

[mstng86]

24 hours and 2 votes for Obama. I jokingly voted for him, who else voted?

[Vertnut]

What do the other candidates have to do with this, at this point? Romney is the choice of the party, so the others are irrelevant, correct?

And completely agreed on the court. Then we get to the whole "we're in Texas, what does it matter how we vote" line of reasoning. I hold this as true, so it doesn't really matter if I choose to pencil in Paul, does it?



It was a loosely phrased observation, implying support of the candidate. Currently it's down to 68%, in general support, in one form or another.

So here we are, Mike. The country comes to you and informs you that your ballot will determine whether or not Obama gets back in. Your vote is it. You hold the election in your hands, along with the balance of the supreme court, which also threatens our gun rights along with countless others.
Do you: A) pencil in Ron Paul to show the world you truly are a rebel, insuring an Obama victory and most certainly losing our right-leaning supreme court majority? Or: B) realize the greater good, hold your nose, kick and scream, and vote Romney, insuring we at least abolish Obama-Care and keep the supreme court?

RP as a "third party" is not loosely phrased to me.

[mikec]

So here we are, Mike. The country comes to you and informs you that your ballot will determine whether or not Obama gets back in. Your vote is it. You hold the election in your hands, along with the balance of the supreme court, which also threatens our gun rights along with countless others.
Do you: A) pencil in Ron Paul to show the world you truly are a rebel, insuring an Obama victory and most certainly losing our right-leaning supreme court majority? Or: B) realize the greater good, hold your nose, kick and scream, and vote Romney, insuring we at least abolish Obama-Care and keep the supreme court?

RP as a "third party" is not loosely phrased to me.

Semantics. The first is a given, and the second is parsing in the truest sense of the term.

Maybe I can rephrase it like this: We can combine the third and fourth selections on the poll as implying that, in one form or another, you support Paul.

There, that might actually work!

[Vertnut]

Semantics. The first is a given, and the second is parsing in the truest sense of the term.

Maybe I can rephrase it like this: We can combine the third and fourth selections on the poll as implying that, in one form or another, you support Paul.

There, that might actually work!

You didn't answer my question.

[mikec]

You didn't answer my question.

I've been consistent from day one, as have you, on which side of the political spectrum I stand. Given that, it is a given that, were it down to the "your vote is the only one that matters" scenario you propose, I would vote for the republican candidate.


In reality the question is hyperbole, because our delegates will vote as they please. Our votes do not actually influence the election itself, as they, by design, only show our delegates our overall wishes.

"Under the Electoral College system, we do not elect the President and Vice President through a direct nation-wide vote. We select electors, who pledge their electoral vote to a specific candidate.

In December, the electors of each state meet to vote for President and Vice President. The Presidential election is decided by the combined results of the 51 (the 50 states and the District of Columbia) state elections. It is possible that an elector could ignore the results of the popular vote, but that occurs very rarely.

Your vote helps decide which candidate receives your state's electoral votes."

[BERNIE MOSFET]

To say that, it's obvious you've failed to really look at other candidates, other than listen to the media. We will agree to disagree. Romney came from a VERY liberal state, where his job was a lot different. He has acknowledged that there's a big difference in what was done in Mass. and what the country needs. Whoever gets the nod to go on the ballot, will get my vote.

I vote for the supreme court. You lose ONE supreme to Obama, your guns and a lot of other rights will be G-O-N-E.

I had a very liberal Texas gov't college prof who absolutely insisted that conservative judges should be voted in. On state and local elections, he'd vote a straight D ticket, and then go back and change the judges to R. Even he knew liberal judges are not a good thing.



Doesn't Ginsburg typically lean liberally? If so, her retirement under Obama shouldn't dramatically shift the court's interpretive disposition.

[Vertnut]

I've been consistent from day one, as have you, on which side of the political spectrum I stand. Given that, it is a given that, were it down to the "your vote is the only one that matters" scenario you propose, I would vote for the republican candidate.


In reality the question is hyperbole, because our delegates will vote as they please. Our votes do not actually influence the election itself, as they, by design, only show our delegates our overall wishes.

"Under the Electoral College system, we do not elect the President and Vice President through a direct nation-wide vote. We select electors, who pledge their electoral vote to a specific candidate.

In December, the electors of each state meet to vote for President and Vice President. The Presidential election is decided by the combined results of the 51 (the 50 states and the District of Columbia) state elections. It is possible that an elector could ignore the results of the popular vote, but that occurs very rarely.

Your vote helps decide which candidate receives your state's electoral votes."

For the record, I will vote RP in the Texas primary. Shocking, yes? I'm just hoping our primary actually means something, as late as it is.