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    By mid-summer last year, it was so hot and dry that many West Texas cotton farmers gave up hope of producing a crop. Yet they had to keep watering, pumping from diminishing aquifers like the Ogallala, to claim crop insurance.


    Cliff notes - The USDA's mandates for when private insurance companies can declare a crop a lost cause forced many Texas farmers to water their dead crops to the point of massive waste.
    Last summer, during the height of the drought, West Texas farmers kept watering their cotton crops despite knowing they wouldn't grow. They needed to do so to qualify for federal crop insurance.

    "It's as if you're watching a guy in the Sahara Desert pour out water," said Stewart Rogers, who manages a cotton farm near Lubbock. Farmers hate wasting a resource, he added, so "it just angers everybody, too."

    Plenty of West Texas farmers found themselves in this situation last year. The most intense drought in recorded Texas history meant that it was so hot and dry by mid-summer that many gave up all hope of producing a crop from irrigated fields. Yet they say they had to keep watering, using precious resources from diminishing aquifers like the Ogallala, because the insurance companies, before making payouts, would ask for proof — like electric bills for pumping — that the farmers had tried to grow a crop.

    "We had to keep pumping water when we knew it was a lost cause," said J.O. Dawdy, a farmer near the West Texas town of Floydada, adding, "I knew it was a waste. Everybody knew it was a waste."

    Water is so precious in West Texas that a 16-county groundwater district stretching from south of Lubbock into the Panhandle recently introduced rules that will cap the amount of water that farmers can withdraw from the Ogallala — something Dawdy is concerned about.

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    The U.S. Department of Agriculture provides federally subsidized crop insurance through its Risk Management Agency. Private companies administer the insurance, which normally, farmers say, covers hazards like hailstorms and freezes. Calls to two such insurers, John Deere Crop Insurance and Rural Community Insurance Services, went unreturned.

    "Producers who insure their crop under the irrigated practice are required to irrigate their crop at the proper times and amounts necessary to produce their production guarantee," the USDA said in an email.

    Some farmers using advanced watering technologies, like drip irrigation, did produce cotton on irrigated land, sometimes with record yields. It was a good year to do so, because cotton prices soared. (Crop insurance payouts for cotton also soared as cotton prices climbed, though the potential payout amounts for this year have dropped again.)

    Dawdy estimates that he spent at least $25,000 to pump water last year to irrigate 175 acres in Lubbock County, even though he eventually accepted that nothing would grow there. "It's a sick feeling," he said. "I hated to go down there and look at it."

    Amanda Pool, an insurance agent in the Morton branch of Windmark Crop Insurance, said that most of her cotton-farming clients were in a situation similar to Dawdy's — having to water long past when they knew a crop wouldn’t grow.

    "It's very uneconomical for these farmers to continue to water a crop they don't have," she said.

    Rogers, the cotton farm manager, said that the matter needs to be addressed, with one possible solution being reducing the insurance payout somewhat in exchange for allowing farmers to stop watering.

    The question, essentially, revolves around when the USDA will "release" the crop — declaring it's basically hopeless to produce it. Farmers say such proclamations came too late.

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    Asked whether the crops could have been released sooner, USDA spokeswoman Kimberly Smith-Brown said in an email: "No, because [the drought] was an event that was so out of the norm that no one could have predicted it."

    Amy Hardberger, a lawyer with the Environmental Defense Fund who is teaching at Texas Tech University, said that the solution could include a restructuring of the insurance program or a partnership among regulatory agencies and insurers to specify the circumstances in which farmers can stop watering when it's apparent that a crop will not grow.

    The issue of wasted resources last year also extended to "dryland" fields, which are not irrigated. Kirby Lewis, a West Texas farmer, said that because of USDA rules, he planted cotton seeds last year that he knew wouldn't grow in the dry soil.

    "I'm like, 'Well, that was so silly,'" he said. "It was a waste of good seed." He planted in late May or early June, and by August or September, "you could dig that seed up and it looked like you'd just put it in the day before."

    Farmers are "worried they're going into a season just like last year," said Laurie Diaz, who works for the Altman Group, which facilitates crop insurance for John Deere. Much of West Texas remains in severe drought; still, says Lewis, the soil is more moist than last year.

    "Farmers are optimists — they have to be," Dawdy said. "But there are a lot of people that are re-examining their operation, and they may not start out with as much cotton. They may plant just like half a circle."

  • #2
    Insurance companies and lawyers have ruined this country.


    However I would be willing to bet that the water wasted on dead crops is a drop in the bucket compared to what we use to drill and frac wells in west Texas.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
      Insurance companies and lawyers have ruined this country.


      However I would be willing to bet that the water wasted on dead crops is a drop in the bucket compared to what we use to drill and frac wells in west Texas.
      I'm sure it's not the end all be all to Texas's water problems, but it's the little things like this that add up over time and fuel this water crisis we continually have. Just meant to highlight one more inefficient use of our natural resources because the USDA is making blanket regs. which may not necessarily apply to different parts of the country equally.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post


        However I would be willing to bet that the water wasted on dead crops is a drop in the bucket compared to what we use to drill and frac wells in west Texas.
        Which then of course ruins any water wells nearby

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        • #5
          Originally posted by waycooljr View Post
          Which then of course ruins any water wells nearby
          Keep drinking the kool aid

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          • #6
            Originally posted by waycooljr View Post
            Which then of course ruins any water wells nearby
            Sometimes, but more often than not surrounding wells are fine. There are occasional accidents, or occasionally there are irresponsible companies, but most of the time things go according to plan. Think of it like this; when the Deep Water Horizon blew and polluted as much as it did, the cleanup actually ended up going pretty fast, and that was a deep leak, hard to get to, and polluted a huge area. Most of the time cleanup isn't too bad from what I have seen and heard.

            Out here I can only think of two really bad accidents; one polluted several hundred wells; it was an accident but the company basically ended up just buying bottled water for the families affected after everything was said and done. The other was pollution of groundwater but last I heard it was from sheer negligence and the company tried to cover it up so I am sure they will pay for it in court if they haven't already. Most of my family is in the oil business in some form or fashion and large disasters like that are rare; they do happen but not every day like the media wants you to think.
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            • #7
              Why are y'all even talking about this?

              All it is, is one more example of government fucking shit up...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by waycooljr View Post
                Which then of course ruins any water wells nearby
                Yeah especially since the water table is about a mile up from the formation, and guarded from about 4 strings of casing to protect the surroundings. Sounds about right.. STFU on something you know nothing about.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Trip McNeely View Post
                  Yeah especially since the water table is about a mile up from the formation, and guarded from about 4 strings of casing to protect the surroundings. Sounds about right.. STFU on something you know nothing about.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
                    Insurance companies and lawyers have ruined this country.


                    However I would be willing to bet that the water wasted on dead crops is a drop in the bucket compared to what we use to drill and frac wells in west Texas.
                    As MikeC said this is pretty much just another example of how "big brother" can fuck up a wet dream.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GrayStangGT View Post
                      Insurance companies and lawyers have ruined this country.


                      However I would be willing to bet that the water wasted on dead crops is a drop in the bucket compared to what we use to drill and frac wells in west Texas.
                      And this "surface water" is pumped below the aquifer I believe, totally fucking up the original water cycle. This part of modern drilling makes me nervous. I read an article that said in DFW they are using 3-4 million gallons per well. That is messed up.
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                      • #12
                        This probly a dumb question but whats it take to purify sea water for drinking?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by waycooljr View Post
                          This probly a dumb question but whats it take to purify sea water for drinking?
                          Desalination plants are too costy for the usage we want. Only countries with NO inland water resources rely on desalination. i.E. Saudi Arabia and other rich oil countries in the middle of the fucking desert.
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                          • #14
                            It takes a lot of energy to run those plants also.


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                            • #15
                              Good question, good answer. Did not even think about it.
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