Military / Political craziness happening in China right now?

[mikec]

I kind of agree with the guy banging Smurfette. Who really wants to find out what they can do? We're steadily downsizing and cutting our resources so...

[Downs]

I wouldn't want to go to war with them. They are quickly gaining ground in the aviation realm. The navy realm not so but it's only a matter of time IMO before they are on equal footing with us if things keep going like this


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[Broncojohnny]

You do realize that the largest single holder of US government debt is China, with 26 percent of all foreign-held US Treasury securities....

As long as you keep the word "foreign" in there they matter. Once you take that out they don't even hold 10% of outstanding US debt.

As someone said, this isn't world war II, their billion man army can't do shit but attack their neighbors.

[SlowLX]

My friends wife who is a chinese national says

It's an American rumor spread to diminish the communist party...

He said she was dead serious too. I Lol'd

[slow99]

You do realize that the largest single holder of US government debt is China, with 26 percent of all foreign-held US Treasury securities....

You do realize that they hold about $1 trillion of a total of about $15.5 trillion. Roughly 7% ... One of the most overhyped stats there is.

[Gargamel]

As long as you keep the word "foreign" in there they matter. Once you take that out they don't even hold 10% of outstanding US debt.

As someone said, this isn't world war II, their billion man army can't do shit but attack their neighbors.

The stat may be over-hyped, but not insignifcant....

The points I was trying to make:

1. They have a very large ground capability with an S-300 based air defense system that is easily capable of capturing and holding ground as long as air or naval logistics are not a component.

2. If China were to do something of the above, the chances that the current administration would do jack or shit about it is nearly 0%.

[Baba Ganoush]

All good points, but what about the simple fact that.....


There's billions of them!!!


That would be a long war.

[Geor!]

All good points, but what about the simple fact that.....


There's billions of them!!!


That would be a long war.

They don't have enough boats to get all million over here at once and the boats that they do have would be destroyed before they got anywhere near. At least, I'd like to think so.

million = billion.

[Gargamel]

They don't have enough boats to get all million over here at once and the boats that they do have would be destroyed before they got anywhere near. At least, I'd like to think so.

They have a very limited abilility to project conventional power via naval assets.

To be honest, I don't think you'll ever have to worry about China classically "invading" the US. Not gonna happen...

[slow99]

There are billions of those fuckers and they own all our debt.

[Geor!]

There are billions of those fuckers and they own all our debt.

who cares i just want stock picks!!!11"!!1

[Strychnine]

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Sorry it took me a while to get back. Absolutely nothing is getting out now. Net access has been shutoff entirely from places where anyone is trying to do things their teams of censors dislike. Phone access is quashed. I haven't heard anything at all.

Rumors, and nothing more it sounds like.

You have no clue how effective China is at stopping this sort of thing from getting out, nor do you have any idea how often things like it happen.

Even if a coup has taken place, it's likely we'd never know. Especially around election season. In order to control the masses and all the various provinces, China has established the State as an unwavering power and erased the concept of revolution from the common vernacular. Anyone wanting to control China as is, would have to continue that practice. As bizarre as this is, saying "We just won a coup" would screw up 60 years of brainwashing, and tell ansty provinces that there is indeed weakness in the State.

It's such a weird place.

The threat is news getting out that anyone even TRIED to form a coup, not the coup itself. Their power balance throughout Mainland China is that tenuous. Basically there's two sides. The citizens of China, and the Party. The party may fight amongst itself, but they know to keep shit on the downlow or they'll all lose power. At minimum, lots of uppity provinces will release the Party isn't as strong as it seems.

Nothing in the last six hours?

Our employees have left the mainland. Much as anticipated, it appears to be an aggressive negotiation. No idea on the result. I doubt anyone will ever know.

[futant]

crazy. fuck the chinese! (cartman)




SA Y IT BUTTTERS !

[Baba Ganoush]

There are billions of those fuckers and they own all our debt.

Uh huh. "They comin' to collect, you bet beli-ee dat!"

[cyclonescott]

I really doubt that China cares about a bunch of numbers on a computer somewhere. We borrow money from them, we send back that money in the form of interest payments and buying crappy goods from them, they then give us that money back and take our raw and natural resources and stockpile them. If you have ever worked at a major port you see lots of loaded containers coming off the ships but only empty ones going back on. What does get shipped back to China is raw timber, grains, tons of recycled metals and oil. All China cares about is our resources and will eventually come for our land . They already own 50 square miles in Idaho and want to build a factory and house Chinese worker there. Also I would bet that there is more to there military than what we see and know and if they wanted to get a billion people here fast that they would be able to.