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    Sergeant Gary Stein Facebook

    A Marine may be in trouble for possibly violating military rules after criticizing President Obama on Facebook. Sergeant Gary Stein started a Facebook page, writing on it that he would not follow orders from the president.

    Sgt. Stein said in a statement that he believes he has freedom of speech like everyone else, and that the “Constitution trumps everything else.” Legal analysts Lis Wiehl and Bob Massi joined America’s News HQ to talk about the case.

    Lis disagrees with his statement saying that when people sign up for the military, they are prohibited from certain political speech. “Saying that you’re not going to follow the commander in chief when you’ve made a sworn statement … is at least skirting the line,” she contended.

    Bob said there are protocols with the Department of Defense that prohibits military members from speaking out in this manner. “I think what the problem is that he identified himself in his Facebook as a military person. The question is what if he didn’t identify himself as a military person but said it as an individual citizen.”

    According to Directive 1344 from the Department of Defense, “A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may … express a personal opinion on political candidates and issues, but not as a representative of the Armed Forces.”

    Lis said that the problem is that he did mention that he has been an active duty Marine for eight years. Sgt. Stein clarified his statement later saying he meant he would not follow “unlawful” orders, but that wasn’t what was originally written.

    What do you think, should military personnel have more freedom to express their opinions on political issues?



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    The UCMJ is very clear. Active duty shuts the hell up. I agree with that, you know that going in. However, FOX is VERY wrong on that we as privates and lower enlisted cannot make a call on what is unlawful orders. It is drilled into our heads that you do not follow an unlawful order. If you have a doubt, you question the order and then try to run it up the chain of command. If you cannot and still doubt, you put your collar on the line and refuse to obey.
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    taking a stand on Facebook oh what a rebel!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by scootro View Post
      taking a stand on Facebook oh what a rebel!
      Point isn't his stupidity, point is the news is trying to say that service members have no right to question orders
      I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
        Point isn't his stupidity, point is the news is trying to say that service members have no right to question orders
        I remember our Master Sgt. saying that if he ever told us to do something that we did not feel was right to speak up.

        He may make you pay for it but either way you stood up and that was his point...

        Not sure if there is any legal implications or any laws saying that once you join the military to serve this country, the rights of this country no longer apply to you....because honestly, why in the hell would I serve a country that is not serving me while I serve them...
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
          Point isn't his stupidity, point is the news is trying to say that service members have no right to question orders
          i found out that you can question anything doesn't mean anyone has to answer you!

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            I hit the like button...
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            • #7
              I swore to protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. I'm no Constitutional scholar but I have a pretty good idea of what I'm defending. It amazes me how many people I've served with at can't tell you dick about the Constitution.
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              • #8
                It pisses me off the sheer number of people who say you need to be a scholar to understand the Constitution. It's written in English so that anyone could pick it up and understand it. From the lowest farmer to the politician
                I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=Forever_frost;625001]It pisses me off the sheer number of people who say you need to be a scholar to understand the Constitution. It's written in English so that anyone could pick it up and understand it. From the lowest farmer to the politician[/QUOTE

                  Don't tell anyone that the govt. doesn't want us to know that part.
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