Rand Paul Detained

[slow06]

From what I read on ABC, it targeted his knee for inspection, he asked for a rescan and was told no that they were going to do a full body pat down and he refused. He was then pulled aside (detained) and made to miss his flight to DC for the vote this afternoon.

It is currently unclear whether he'll be able to make it on time. The TSA violated the constitution on this one. Very clearly. Wonder if they'll be made to suffer the consequences.

What would the consequences be?

[Vertnut]

I don't fly too often, but I see something similar to this every time I fly. They're busy strip searching Granny Clampitt with her fake hip, while 3 guys in their 20's wearing turbans slide right through.

[GhostTX]

I don't fly too often, but I see something similar to this every time I fly. They're busy strip searching Granny Clampitt with her fake hip, while 3 guys in their 20's wearing turbans slide right through.

[Forever_frost]

What would the consequences be?

For violating the constitution?

[mustangguy289]

If the vote meant enough to him he could have just have done the pat down and gotten on with his life.

Turn this around, what if the TSA would have said oh well we can't do anything and let him on the plane. What if he had had a gun and shot the pilot... etc?

What exactly does a breach of peace mean?

He had the option to have a pat down and then get on the plane. It is his own fault for missing the flight.

[mstng86]

I guess I don't know the procedures in Congress, but can he not call in his vote? Does he physically have to be on the floor?

[mustangguy289]

So basically a Congressman can break any law he/she feels like, so long as it's a mr. meaner? There's one part of the Constitution I'm against.

I agree, this is the first time anyone has ever given good proof as to why the constitution might need to be reviewed every now and then. Too bad that was not the OP's intention.

[GhostTX]

I agree, this is the first time anyone has ever given good proof as to why the constitution might need to be reviewed every now and then. Too bad that was not the OP's intention.

It can be reviewed at any time...it's called an Amendment. And there's a Constitutional process for that, too.

[CJ]

He's on Hannity's radio show right now and he's saying he was without question detained by the TSA.

[SMEGMA STENCH]

This subject is a bit of a fine line. We all want airport security, as we want to feel safe when we fly. But the only way to do that is to check people. Sorry, but muslims aren't the only people out there who would take advantage of the situation of being they only one armed on a plane. So you really do need to check more people than just them. So how do you do that, while still protecting individual's rights? Used to be a security guard in my younger days, and had to grope mexicans at a mexican bar before they went in. Dumb sons of bitches were always stabbing each other. And, I've been groped before I went in.

So what maybe just... I don't know... run people through the xray scanner, but don't grope them? There must be some kind of happy medium.

[mustangguy289]

He's on Hannity's radio show right now and he's saying he was without question detained by the TSA.

Just another chance for the media and a politician to blow shit out of proportion.

[Up0n0ne]

Seems the TSA has detained him because of an 'abnormality" in the full body scan and he refused to be patted down. Good on him. Evidently, they haven't read this:

US Constitution, Art I Sec 6: Section 6.

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a compensation for their services, to be ascertained by law, and paid out of the treasury of the United States. They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place.

I hope him and his father start tearing the TSA apart

I agree. We can't forget the 4th Ammendment as well. Which I know you are aware of but just want to post it anyway. lol

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Don't you know that the constitution doesn't apply? That's an old dilapidated document that is too old to be useful.

I know you're joking but will post this anyway for info. for others.

One of the nation’s most well known legal precedents, Marbury vs. Madison, decided in 1803, makes clear that any “law” that is “repugnant to the Constitution is null and void.”

http://law.jrank.org/pages/8432/Marbury-v-Madison.html

[BP]

I guess I don't know the procedures in Congress, but can he not call in his vote? Does he physically have to be on the floor?

They have to be present to vote, otherwise it goes on the public record as a no vote. Rand is going to keep his seat for as long as he wants it, he's going to push and shove until this crap stops.

[ThreeFingerPete]

If the vote meant enough to him he could have just have done the pat down and gotten on with his life.

Turn this around, what if the TSA would have said oh well we can't do anything and let him on the plane. What if he had had a gun and shot the pilot... etc?

What exactly does a breach of peace mean?

He had the option to have a pat down and then get on the plane. It is his own fault for missing the flight.

You don't seriously believe that bullshit do you? The TSA isn't law enforcement, they aren't enforcing laws, they aren't really doing shit but violating people's rights and subjecting travelers to abuse.

[Forever_frost]

If the vote meant enough to him he could have just have done the pat down and gotten on with his life.

Turn this around, what if the TSA would have said oh well we can't do anything and let him on the plane. What if he had had a gun and shot the pilot... etc?

What exactly does a breach of peace mean?

He had the option to have a pat down and then get on the plane. It is his own fault for missing the flight.

1. He's a member of Congress. I'm not seeing him shooting anyone. Oh and according to the Constitution, he CANNOT be detained on his way to a vote.

2. Pretty sure that was answered

3. He asked to be rescanned and was refused. It's the TSA's fault for him missing the plane. The TSA isn't an enforcement agency OR a police agency. It's a theater group with no constitutional power. Disband them all