Obama Administration Kills Pipeline

[2011GT]

Says the expert.

Haha, like any of us are "experts" on this matter.

[Broncojohnny]

Haha, like any of us are "experts" on this matter.

At least you can admit you don't have a clue.

[FreightTrain]

I have no idea why the railroad can't handle the business, sounds like you might need to ask someone in management about that.

If everything you say is true, that the railroad can do it and can do it cheaper then why would anyone want to build a pipeline? The answer is fairly easy to come to, either they don't care about economics and want to lose money by building a pipeline or what you are saying isn't true.

You can google everything I've said. Oh I forgot to mention they also have 1000 guys laid off right now. That pipeline has been in the works for years. It wasn't up until recently the Railroads under cut them. 8 months ago I had never seen an oil train. Last week I ran 4 of them. On top of oil trains we currently run pipe trains, sand trains,water trains and rock trains all dedicated to the oil companies. My terminal sees 10 of these trains a day and 8 months ago we had none of them.

[Broncojohnny]

You can google everything I've said. Oh I forgot to mention they also have 1000 guys laid off right now. That pipeline has been in the works for years. It wasn't up until recently the Railroads under cut them. 8 months ago I had never seen an oil train. Last week I ran 4 of them. On top of oil trains we currently run pipe trains, sand trains,water trains and rock trains all dedicated to the oil companies. My terminal sees 10 of these trains a day and 8 months ago we had none of them.

Ok so why build a pipeline then?

[2011GT]

Ok so why build a pipeline then?

So the government can control it

[Broncojohnny]

So the government can control it

Oh dear God

[FreightTrain]

Ok so why build a pipeline then?

Beats me. You know how those crazy Canadians can be. All I know is they were trying to build it through Nebraska and Iowa. Those states where bought and owned by the Railroads a long long time ago. I think the day the Railroads realized how much money they could make if the pipeline wasn't built was the day the pipeline was DOA.

[Zfan]

Face it, the majority of lazy, uneducated, ignorant Americans are just lining up in droves to have Obama tea bag them. Until the average American wakes up and turns off the tv we will see no change. Goodbye Old Girl (America).

The free ride is almost over!

[Trip McNeely]

Here is what needs to happen, and I hope it does; First off there needs to be an Alliance formed between the operators/producers/drillers, etc of fossil fuels for North America. Yes, I said it, Union, but in an old school helpful to the industry kind of way. Then they need to get together and call a strike. Drillers need to stop drilling, producers need to stop producing gas/oil. Refineries need to shut down, pipelines need to be shut down. Everything needs to come to a screeching halt and only then will the people realize how much we need these "pipelines" and "frac'ing of wells", "coal mining", and "drilling in the Gulf". This would basically cripple the United States and bring these people to their knees. Then maybe people will not take for granted every time they get on their iPhones and Tweet about how bad the oil companies are, or drive their SUV's to rally's to protest pipelines. Ignorant people drive me nuts.

[Forever_frost]

Why build the pipeline? Because it's faster and not dependent on unions demanding more pay to get the oil to the refinery. Once it's there? Different story. You have a constant supply with a pipeline versus a train you have to wait on to get there and then wait to unload it, if it gets there on time and then wait for them to clear the tracks while you get the next train and so forth.

Pipelines are faster. A LOT faster.

[Forever_frost]

Here is what needs to happen, and I hope it does; First off there needs to be an Alliance formed between the operators/producers/drillers, etc of fossil fuels for North America. Yes, I said it, Union, but in an old school helpful to the industry kind of way. Then they need to get together and call a strike. Drillers need to stop drilling, producers need to stop producing gas/oil. Refineries need to shut down, pipelines need to be shut down. Everything needs to come to a screeching halt and only then will the people realize how much we need these "pipelines" and "frac'ing of wells", "coal mining", and "drilling in the Gulf". This would basically cripple the United States and bring these people to their knees. Then maybe people will not take for granted every time they get on their iPhones and Tweet about how bad the oil companies are, or drive their SUV's to rally's to protest pipelines. Ignorant people drive me nuts.

You mean they need to go Gault

[ceyko]

Here is what needs to happen, and I hope it does; First off there needs to be an Alliance formed between the operators/producers/drillers, etc of fossil fuels for North America. Yes, I said it, Union, but in an old school helpful to the industry kind of way. Then they need to get together and call a strike. Drillers need to stop drilling, producers need to stop producing gas/oil. Refineries need to shut down, pipelines need to be shut down. Everything needs to come to a screeching halt and only then will the people realize how much we need these "pipelines" and "frac'ing of wells", "coal mining", and "drilling in the Gulf". This would basically cripple the United States and bring these people to their knees. Then maybe people will not take for granted every time they get on their iPhones and Tweet about how bad the oil companies are, or drive their SUV's to rally's to protest pipelines. Ignorant people drive me nuts.

I think a lot of little people are in agreement with you. What needs to happen is politicians with integrity and common sense need to be elected.

Just my opinion.

[Trip McNeely]

I think a lot of little people are in agreement with you. What needs to happen is politicians with integrity and common sense need to be elected.

Just my opinion.

That would be the ultimate goal, but right now with this moron in office there are no other options. lol

[mikec]

LOL got anything else than the union card. We don't have the capacity or can't handle the business. Then how come we have 1000 locomotives and 30,000 cars sitting in storage. I think that is more than enough to cover a few oil trains. The oil companys have already signed long term deals with the railroad. They project that 60% of all new business in the next 5 years for the railroad will come from the oil companys.

Union excess/wastefulness?

[stevo]

So the government can control it

Yup, it is the smart move since railroads are not controlled by the government. Oh wait...

Stevo