Obama Administration Kills Pipeline

[Trip McNeely]

What I don't understand is that there are millions of miles of pipeline both gas and oil all over the country already running successfully and have been for years. The only signficance in this, is that there's an anti-petroleum libtard in office and these libtard hippies are taking advantage of it.

[FreightTrain]

Like it matters any way. It is easy to see you don't have a clue what you are talking about, if the railroad option worked, they would be using it right now and there wouldn't be a $10 difference between WTI and Brent.

They are using it. In the last week I've ran 4 oil trains, but like you said Like it matters any way.

[Trip McNeely]

Most people don't know what the fuck they're talking about, especially these hypocritical protestors. I hope they're happy, may they suffer the consequences to the fullest extent.

[Broncojohnny]

LOL where did I say they would work for 10k to 20k a year. I said the pipeline would create 10k to 20k jobs over a 2 to 5 year period. If I had a dollar for everytime someone mentioned union on this site I'd be rich.

Like it matters any way. It is easy to see you don't have a clue what you are talking about, if the railroad option worked, they would be using it right now and there wouldn't be a $10 difference between WTI and Brent.

[FreightTrain]

Let me know where you can hire welders, pipe fitters and mill wrights for 10 to 20K a year, I'd like to sub them out to a few places.

Sounds to me like you been reading what the union printed out about this pipeline and left for the illiterate monkeys at the union hall.

LOL where did I say they would work for 10k to 20k a year. I said the pipeline would create 10k to 20k jobs over a 2 to 5 year period. If I had a dollar for everytime someone mentioned union on this site I'd be rich.

[Slowhand]

Not to mention the United States is in an oil boom right now and is a net exporter of petroleum products for the first time in 60 years. South Texas is flooded with oil and it's less than 300 miles to a refinery. Why do they need to ship oil from 2000 miles away?

If you knew what you were talking about then you would know that what's creating our status as a net-exporter is refined petroleum products; we're way underwater on the importation side with crude, despite the recent increases in US crude production.

[Broncojohnny]

Yea because it was going to cost between 5 and 7 billion dollars to build that pipeline. That means it would take 20 to 30 years to brake even on the money side vs paying to ship it by rail. That doesn't even factor in the environmental cost or all the pissed off land owners. The jobs the pipeline would create are a joke also. 10k to 20k jobs over what 2 to 5 years and then a skelton crew to keep it going. So where is your argument.

Let me know where you can hire welders, pipe fitters and mill wrights for 10 to 20K a year, I'd like to sub them out to a few places.

Sounds to me like you been reading what the union printed out about this pipeline and left for the illiterate monkeys at the union hall.

[Geor!]

What about the environmental cost of a derailed train carrying 60,000 barrels at one time? Now go back to jerking off to Thomas the Train reruns.

[FreightTrain]

Not to mention the United States is in an oil boom right now and is a net exporter of petroleum products for the first time in 60 years. South Texas is flooded with oil and it's less than 300 miles to a refinery. Why do they need to ship oil from 2000 miles away?

[FreightTrain]

No sense in arguing with morons.

Yea because it was going to cost between 5 and 7 billion dollars to build that pipeline. That means it would take 20 to 30 years to brake even on the money side vs paying to ship it by rail. That doesn't even factor in the environmental cost or all the pissed off land owners. The jobs the pipeline would create are a joke also. 10k to 20k jobs over what 2 to 5 years and then a skelton crew to keep it going. So where is your argument.

[Geor!]

So when they increase it to 600k barrels per day, we're talking $4.2m per week to move it, or $220m a year (by your numbers). Long term, the pipeline still works, plus it goes straight to refineries

No sense in arguing with morons.

[Vertnut]

You think the railroad is only capable of running one train a day. They could run 10 oil trains a day and blow that 435k barrel pipe line out of the water. Depending on the mileage the railroad would charge about 50k per train. So transportation cost equals less than $1 per barrel. Right now they are running oil trains out of the Eagle Ford and trains are sitting around waiting because they can't get it out of the ground fast enough.

So when they increase it to 600k barrels per day, we're talking $4.2m per week to move it, or $220m a year (by your numbers). Long term, the pipeline still works, plus it goes straight to refineries

[FreightTrain]

Ummm, the pipeline will move 435k barrels a day, just to start. Not to mention the tens of thousands of jobs during and after construction. Rail is not the only answer to all our energy problems. Ethanol cannot be pipelined, and it's a total debacle. You're not even figuring in transportation costs' for all that oil. Buffet isn't going to move that oil for nothing.

You think the railroad is only capable of running one train a day. They could run 10 oil trains a day and blow that 435k barrel pipe line out of the water. Depending on the mileage the railroad would charge about 50k per train. So transportation cost equals less than $1 per barrel. Right now they are running oil trains out of the Eagle Ford and trains are sitting around waiting because they can't get it out of the ground fast enough.

[Nash B.]

The infrastructure is already in place to ship the oil by rail. Plus one train can move 60,000 barrels of oil at one time. Why spend billions on a pipeline when you don't need it.

Look at the union guy talking about unnecessary spending.

[Vertnut]

The infrastructure is already in place to ship the oil by rail. Plus one train can move 60,000 barrels of oil at one time. Why spend billions on a pipeline when you don't need it.

Ummm, the pipeline will move 435k barrels a day, just to start. Not to mention the tens of thousands of jobs during and after construction. Rail is not the only answer to all our energy problems. Ethanol cannot be pipelined, and it's a total debacle. You're not even figuring in transportation costs' for all that oil. Buffet isn't going to move that oil for nothing.