Obama Administration Kills Pipeline

[FreightTrain]

No sense in arguing with morons.

Yea because it was going to cost between 5 and 7 billion dollars to build that pipeline. That means it would take 20 to 30 years to brake even on the money side vs paying to ship it by rail. That doesn't even factor in the environmental cost or all the pissed off land owners. The jobs the pipeline would create are a joke also. 10k to 20k jobs over what 2 to 5 years and then a skelton crew to keep it going. So where is your argument.

[FreightTrain]

Not to mention the United States is in an oil boom right now and is a net exporter of petroleum products for the first time in 60 years. South Texas is flooded with oil and it's less than 300 miles to a refinery. Why do they need to ship oil from 2000 miles away?

[Geor!]

What about the environmental cost of a derailed train carrying 60,000 barrels at one time? Now go back to jerking off to Thomas the Train reruns.

[Broncojohnny]

Yea because it was going to cost between 5 and 7 billion dollars to build that pipeline. That means it would take 20 to 30 years to brake even on the money side vs paying to ship it by rail. That doesn't even factor in the environmental cost or all the pissed off land owners. The jobs the pipeline would create are a joke also. 10k to 20k jobs over what 2 to 5 years and then a skelton crew to keep it going. So where is your argument.

Let me know where you can hire welders, pipe fitters and mill wrights for 10 to 20K a year, I'd like to sub them out to a few places.

Sounds to me like you been reading what the union printed out about this pipeline and left for the illiterate monkeys at the union hall.

[Slowhand]

Not to mention the United States is in an oil boom right now and is a net exporter of petroleum products for the first time in 60 years. South Texas is flooded with oil and it's less than 300 miles to a refinery. Why do they need to ship oil from 2000 miles away?

If you knew what you were talking about then you would know that what's creating our status as a net-exporter is refined petroleum products; we're way underwater on the importation side with crude, despite the recent increases in US crude production.

[FreightTrain]

Let me know where you can hire welders, pipe fitters and mill wrights for 10 to 20K a year, I'd like to sub them out to a few places.

Sounds to me like you been reading what the union printed out about this pipeline and left for the illiterate monkeys at the union hall.

LOL where did I say they would work for 10k to 20k a year. I said the pipeline would create 10k to 20k jobs over a 2 to 5 year period. If I had a dollar for everytime someone mentioned union on this site I'd be rich.

[Broncojohnny]

LOL where did I say they would work for 10k to 20k a year. I said the pipeline would create 10k to 20k jobs over a 2 to 5 year period. If I had a dollar for everytime someone mentioned union on this site I'd be rich.

Like it matters any way. It is easy to see you don't have a clue what you are talking about, if the railroad option worked, they would be using it right now and there wouldn't be a $10 difference between WTI and Brent.

[Trip McNeely]

Most people don't know what the fuck they're talking about, especially these hypocritical protestors. I hope they're happy, may they suffer the consequences to the fullest extent.

[FreightTrain]

Like it matters any way. It is easy to see you don't have a clue what you are talking about, if the railroad option worked, they would be using it right now and there wouldn't be a $10 difference between WTI and Brent.

They are using it. In the last week I've ran 4 oil trains, but like you said Like it matters any way.

[Trip McNeely]

What I don't understand is that there are millions of miles of pipeline both gas and oil all over the country already running successfully and have been for years. The only signficance in this, is that there's an anti-petroleum libtard in office and these libtard hippies are taking advantage of it.

[Broncojohnny]

They are using it. In the last week I've ran 4 oil trains, but like you said Like it matters any way.

No shit? The point is the railroad doesn't have the capacity, do you know how to reason out anything? If the railroad had the ability to move the oil then there wouldn't be a $10 difference in price RIGHT NOW. You guys can't get it done, thus people wanting to build the pipeline.

I'm sure the union told you different though and that is all that counts.

[FreightTrain]

No shit? The point is the railroad doesn't have the capacity, do you know how to reason out anything? If the railroad had the ability to move the oil then there wouldn't be a $10 difference in price RIGHT NOW. You guys can't get it done, thus people wanting to build the pipeline.

I'm sure the union told you different though and that is all that counts.

LOL got anything else than the union card. We don't have the capacity or can't handle the business. Then how come we have 1000 locomotives and 30,000 cars sitting in storage. I think that is more than enough to cover a few oil trains. The oil companys have already signed long term deals with the railroad. They project that 60% of all new business in the next 5 years for the railroad will come from the oil companys.

[2011GT]

No shit? The point is the railroad doesn't have the capacity, do you know how to reason out anything? If the railroad had the ability to move the oil then there wouldn't be a $10 difference in price RIGHT NOW. You guys can't get it done, thus people wanting to build the pipeline.

I'm sure the union told you different though and that is all that counts.

Damn, you're a fucking idiot.

[Broncojohnny]

LOL got anything else than the union card. We don't have the capacity or can't handle the business. Then how come we have 1000 locomotives and 30,000 cars sitting in storage. I think that is more than enough to cover a few oil trains. The oil companys have already signed long term deals with the railroad. They project that 60% of all new business in the next 5 years for the railroad will come from the oil companys.

I have no idea why the railroad can't handle the business, sounds like you might need to ask someone in management about that.

If everything you say is true, that the railroad can do it and can do it cheaper then why would anyone want to build a pipeline? The answer is fairly easy to come to, either they don't care about economics and want to lose money by building a pipeline or what you are saying isn't true.

[Broncojohnny]

Damn, you're a fucking idiot.

Says the expert.