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  • I say if the woman doesn't want the baby then it is her choice. Being a man I will never have to worry about making that very tough CHOICE.
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    • Originally posted by stang View Post
      I say if the woman doesn't want the baby then it is her choice. Being a man I will never have to worry about making that very tough CHOICE.
      And there are a lot of men that will argue that. What about a spouse?

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      • Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
        And there are a lot of men that will argue that. What about a spouse?
        File for divorce and spread your seed to someone who wants to have your child.
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        • Originally posted by stang View Post
          File for divorce and spread your seed to someone who wants to have your child.
          One reason I've stayed on this site so long, is it makes me feel like a mental giant.

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          • Originally posted by racrguy View Post
            The feeling is mutual. And I'm sure she does, but we've never spoken about it.



            ANOTHER apples/oranges. Fuck man, why can't you keep comparisons comparable instead of going off on something that isn't remotely similar to what we're talking about.
            I'm bringing up examples to the situations you provide Sparky. So what is the line at which you'll believe that abortion is wrong? Heartbeat? Tell me what the line is at which I'm allowed to defend the life of a child
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            • Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
              I figured that card would be pulled out as the argument weakened. I'm not saying "No" to abortion, but it's still a surgical procedure and should be treated as such.
              With any other surgical procedure, you can waive any portion of information. No one is forced to view information, all they have to do is sign saying information was offered.

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              • Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
                One reason I've stayed on this site so long, is it makes me feel like a mental giant.
                My thoughts exactly. The man's belief or desire to have the child isn't taken into account. It's just as much his as the woman's but fuck you if you believe he should have an equal say.
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                • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                  I'm bringing up examples to the situations you provide Sparky. So what is the line at which you'll believe that abortion is wrong? Heartbeat? Tell me what the line is at which I'm allowed to defend the life of a child

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                  • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                    My thoughts exactly. The man's belief or desire to have the child isn't taken into account. It's just as much his as the woman's but fuck you if you believe he should have an equal say.
                    Men can have a vasectomy without spousal consent.

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                    • Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
                      The Texas law, enacted in 2011, requires abortion providers to display the ultrasound images and describe them in detail. Women cannot decline to hear the physician's description of the image unless they qualify for an exception under the statute. Exceptions include if the woman suffered rape or incest or if the fetus has abnormalities.

                      http://news.yahoo.com/appeals-court-...193904310.html
                      Well, I be damned, that is the actual article I read when I started this thread, only it has been edited/updated since I read it. I stand corrected.

                      Stevo
                      Originally posted by SSMAN
                      ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                      • Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
                        Men can have a vasectomy without spousal consent.
                        But you don't think a husband would discuss it with his wife?

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                        • Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
                          But you don't think a husband would discuss it with his wife?
                          You'd think a woman would discuss an abortion. If either party goes behind their spouse's back and makes that kind of decision, there are probably bigger flaws in the relationship. It's probably not the best situation to bring a child into, anyways.

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                          • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                            I'm bringing up examples to the situations you provide Sparky. So what is the line at which you'll believe that abortion is wrong? Heartbeat? Tell me what the line is at which I'm allowed to defend the life of a child
                            The line that has been established in, to the best of my knowledge, EVERY state in the Union. If you don't know what that line is, I suggest you educate yourself on the topic before you come off as even more uneducated than you do.

                            For the record, murder is not abortion, and abortion is not murder. Two different terms for two different actions.

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                            • Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
                              Men can have a vasectomy without spousal consent.
                              And a woman can be cut without her husband's consent. This isn't about this. This is about a life that has already been created
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                              • Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                                The line that has been established in, to the best of my knowledge, EVERY state in the Union. If you don't know what that line is, I suggest you educate yourself on the topic before you come off as even more uneducated than you do.

                                For the record, murder is not abortion, and abortion is not murder. Two different terms for two different actions.
                                And you're under the impression that Supreme Courts don't override their own rulings. I'd advise you to educate yourself. I doubt I've come off as uneducated at all. Especially compared to you Shelly.

                                mur·der/ˈmərdər/
                                Noun:
                                The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

                                Definition of KILL
                                transitive verb
                                1
                                a : to deprive of life : cause the death of b (1) : to slaughter (as a hog) for food (2) : to convert a food animal into (a kind of meat) by slaughtering
                                2
                                a : to put an end to <kill competition> b : defeat, veto <killed the amendment> c : to mark for omission; also : delete d : annihilate, destroy <kill an enemy>
                                3
                                a : to destroy the vital or essential quality of <killed the pain with drugs> b : to cause to stop <kill the motor> c : to check the flow of current through

                                What would you like me to break down further?
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