Ron Paul was on fire tonight in the debate....

[stevo]

If people don't like Dr Ron Paul's foreign policy then whose do they like and why? Who has a better domestic policy than Dr Paul and why? I would think that domestic policy would be more important than foreign policy at this time.

Because one idiot in power of one foreign country can make one statement and double our energy costs within a week, not so much for a president of our country. One foreign organization can smuggle one truck-sized nuke into our country in a shipping container and wipe out New York, Los Angeles or Houston and totally destroy our economy overnight, not so much with our president. One idiot nobody can launch one surface to surface missile in the Straight of Hormuz at a US Navy vessel and start WWIII, in minutes, not so much with the our president.

If our president has a weak foreign policy, all of the above can happen, if his domestic policy sucks, his power is checked at home and is not as instant as the things I previously mentioned.

Stevo

[matts5.0]

Because one idiot in power of one foreign country can make one statement and double our energy costs within a week, not so much for a president of our country. One foreign organization can smuggle one truck-sized nuke into our country in a shipping container and wipe out New York, Los Angeles or Houston and totally destroy our economy overnight, not so much with our president. One idiot nobody can launch one surface to surface missile in the Straight of Hormuz at a US Navy vessel and start WWIII, in minutes, not so much with the our president.

If our president has a weak foreign policy, all of the above can happen, if his domestic policy sucks, his power is checked at home and is not as instant as the things I previously mentioned.

Stevo

or we elect whoever cbs or msnbc or fox news tells us to.. continue on with the status quo, bankrupt america and it all goes to shit regardless. at least ron wants to at least try and fix shit, why cant we give him a chance? people act like he and his advisers would just invite a gang of terrorists over here with a couple nukes and blow shit up. get real..

[cyclonescott]

What people are failing to mention is that with the current round of sanctions we will lose all of the oil coming out of Iran as it is, so oil prices are going to go up regardless. Any of the other situations you mention could happen no matter who is in office and are more likely to happen with our further intervention in the middle east.

[stevo]

or we elect whoever cbs or msnbc or fox news tells us to.. continue on with the status quo, bankrupt america and it all goes to shit regardless. at least ron wants to at least try and fix shit, why cant we give him a chance? people act like he and his advisers would just invite a gang of terrorists over here with a couple nukes and blow shit up. get real..

...or continue to be a zealot for your favorite candidate, be an idiot when he doesn't have a chance and be sure to throw you vote away and get four more years of the worst-case idiot we have now because you had to write in someone due to your "principals". people act like nothing bad will happen when we let terrorist-supportive nations have nukes because they have NEVER threatened our country and damn sure HAVEN'T given arms and training to people that have killed thousands of our souldiers.. get real yourself...

Stevo

[stevo]

What people are failing to mention is that with the current round of sanctions we will lose all of the oil coming out of Iran as it is, so oil prices are going to go up regardless. Any of the other situations you mention could happen no matter who is in office and are more likely to happen with our further intervention in the middle east.

And Saudi Arabia has said that they will up their supply of oil to match what is reduced from Iran so there will be no reduction of the worlds supply at all.

And your second statement is total bullshit, the only thing keeping Iran from all the shit they threaten is the US military presence in the area. You mean to tell me they would give up all hostilities if all opposing nations left?

Get real.

Stevo

[matts5.0]

And Saudi Arabia has said that they will up their supply of oil to match what is reduced from Iran so there will be no reduction of the worlds supply at all.

And your second statement is total bullshit, the only thing keeping Iran from all the shit they threaten is the US military presence in the area. You mean to tell me they would give up all hostilities if all opposing nations left?

Get real.

Stevo

i know its been mentioned on here.. its called blowback. we could all believe like your self that they hate us because we are free, and america is awesome. maybe, just maybe its because of our ridiculous foreign policy. but ron paul would change that so your right. lets listen to the media, and vote for romney(obama jr.)

[Tyron Shulaces]

It's deluding.


And you are part of the problem. If Paul *were* to get the nod, would you vote for him or obsama?

Based on your verbiage it sounds like you would vote for the latter just to keep from voting for the guy you won't even consider.

And there isn't a candidate walking that will get 100% of the GOP vote. You seem to base your stance on BS.

Thats a tough call for me. I would never EVER vote Democrat so thats not even an issue. The call would be whether or not to vote for RP if he somehow gets the nod from the GOP as the nominee.

Hopefully, i wont have to make that call....

And of course no nominee will get 100% of the GOP vote. That's my point.

[Tyron Shulaces]

i know its been mentioned on here.. its called blowback. we could all believe like your self that they hate us because we are free, and america is awesome. maybe, just maybe its because of our ridiculous foreign policy. but ron paul would change that so your right. lets listen to the media, and vote for romney(obama jr.)

If thats what you believe they hate us for, your off base. They hate us for "being" at all.

Keeping a "clean nose" on foreign policy wont make anyone safer. American exceptionalism does.

[Slowhand]

For those of you tripped up on Paul's foreign policy (of letting our representatives determine foreign policy. weird, huh?), Jon Hunstman has all of the fiscal conservatism with a foreign policy much closer to the glass-factory pushers on here. Except he was an ambassador to China under the Obama administration, which means that he probably likes to pursue diplomacy and work with people whenever possible (heresy, I know) and that he's obviously evil because Obama appointed him, despite his unanimous approval by the Senate.

[matts5.0]

If thats what you believe they hate us for, your off base. They hate us for "being" at all.

Keeping a "clean nose" on foreign policy wont make anyone safer. American exceptionalism does.

Yeah. I hate all Muslims because of their being. I hate all Russians just because and every one else that doesn't think like me. That's bullshit. Other countries don't hate us "just because"

[cyclonescott]

Have you ever work at a major port? I have and there is no way you are going to inspect all containers coming in by sea. Also if a nuke was to come in through a port it would not be coming from Iran because we don't import anything from Iran but we do import quite a bit from China. Also China and Russia have Irans back. China has more than 1,400,000,000 people with about 400,000,000 men between 15 and 40 years of age. We may have better weapons and it would be hard but not impossible for that many people to invade the US. So China is a bigger threat than Iran

[stevo]

Have you ever work at a major port? I have and there is no way you are going to inspect all containers coming in by sea. Also if a nuke was to come in through a port it would not be coming from Iran because we don't import anything from Iran but we do import quite a bit from China. Also China and Russia have Irans back. China has more than 1,400,000,000 people with about 400,000,000 men between 15 and 40 years of age. We may have better weapons and it would be hard but not impossible for that many people to invade the US. So China is a bigger threat than Iran

You actually believe that any nuke Iran may be trying to get into the US will go through customs? That is interesting, I mean, we all know every ship is inspected long before it reaches our shores, so that isn't an issue, right?
And a shipping container sized nuke could never wipe out one of the cities I mentioned by being detonated in the ship channel or bay, right?

And you are right, China doesn't have a reason to not stay neutral, like trillions of dollars it would lose in loans and trade, right? And it and Russia would never have to worry about a nuclear retaliation, am I right?
Long story short, you are a fucking idiot..

Stevo

[Tyron Shulaces]

Yeah. I hate all Muslims because of their being. I hate all Russians just because and every one else that doesn't think like me. That's bullshit. Other countries don't hate us "just because"

Im sure you don't....you may be very rational. But that's not what we're dealing with. Open your eyes!

[Tyron Shulaces]

You actually believe that any nuke Iran may be trying to get into the US will go through customs? That is interesting, I mean, we all know every ship is inspected long before it reaches our shores, so that isn't an issue, right?
And a shipping container sized nuke could never wipe out one of the cities I mentioned by being detonated in the ship channel or bay, right?

And you are right, China doesn't have a reason to not stay neutral, like trillions of dollars it would lose in loans and trade, right? And it and Russia would never have to worry about a nuclear retaliation, am I right?
Long story short, you are a fucking idiot..

Stevo

Exactly. China's not a threat b/c they aren't a theocracy like the middle east states. Geniuses in here, I tell ya.

[stevo]

Yeah. I hate all Muslims because of their being. I hate all Russians just because and every one else that doesn't think like me. That's bullshit. Other countries don't hate us "just because"

I'm pretty sure that Russia isn't controlled by a group of religious zealots that fundamentally believe every word in their holy book, which was written 1400 years ago and tells them to convert everyone to said religion or kill them, is supposed to be followed down to the exact word.
I am also sure that Russia hasn't made a threat recently to destroy our country.
But hey, I could be wrong.

Stevo