For those who still back Obama, why and what do you expect if there is a second term

[The King]

Agreed it is a turd.
I'm for a heathcare bill that places limits on what Insurance companys can charge and requires large business's to provide heathcare or at least pay half.
My wife has MS and under the existing system there is no way I can afford to pay for insurace for her. Most companys won't insure her and the ones that do charge $1000 or more a month for crappy $10,000 deductable insurance. My insurance would be areound $160.

I believe the Patriot act was treated the same way. It certainly wasn't released to the public.

If large businesses are required to provide healthcare they will, in many cases, simply not hire additional employees.

[4eyedwillie]

If large businesses are required to provide healthcare they will, in many cases, simply not hire additional employees.

And what large business's are hiring now? The repubs theory of Trickle down economics is working so very well.........

But your right some may not hire but at a certain point you need more people to grow. Are you gonna cut off your nose to spit your face or are you going to bite the bullit and count it as the cost of doing business and grow?

[Vertnut]

fixed.



says the billionare who took 11 cookies and told the conservative to watch out for the other welfare/union/liberal, etc. Hes going to take that last cookie from you.




2 curse words in one post. I didn't take you for one that resorted to childish name calling. I might post some controversial things, but even I haven't resorted to that level. I am dissapoint.



This. for people that can look past the god/guns and pro-life crap. It's blatantly obvious. Rude awakening come November.

"Pussy" is not a curse word. I'll give you the other one. There's just not another good word for "chickenshit".

[Forever_frost]

You mention Bush and the Patriot Act, what do you think about Obama and his NDAA? And you don't remember the "If you don't vote for health care you want Americans to die?" campaign? And if you're upset about Iraq, I bet you're PISSED about Libya and Uganda

[Forever_frost]

Agreed it is a turd.
I'm for a heathcare bill that places limits on what Insurance companys can charge and requires large business's to provide heathcare or at least pay half.
My wife has MS and under the existing system there is no way I can afford to pay for insurace for her. Most companys won't insure her and the ones that do charge $1000 or more a month for crappy $10,000 deductable insurance. My insurance would be areound $160.

I believe the Patriot act was treated the same way. It certainly wasn't released to the public.

Under what Constitutional power would the federal government tell a company what they must charge for a private good?

[Venom]

Agreed it is a turd.
I'm for a heathcare bill that places limits on what Insurance companys can charge and requires large business's to provide heathcare or at least pay half.
My wife has MS and under the existing system there is no way I can afford to pay for insurace for her. Most companys won't insure her and the ones that do charge $1000 or more a month for crappy $10,000 deductable insurance. My insurance would be areound $160.

I believe the Patriot act was treated the same way. It certainly wasn't released to the public.

So basically what you are saying is that because your wife has MS you should get a break on insurance? That's like saying that a person driving a Ferrari should pay the same premium as someone driving a Pinto. Insurance is a business and they deserve to make money just like anyone else. You wife's treatments, medicine and overall general care will cost more than someone who is in good health. It's flawed logic.
I am not taking a dig at or making light of your wife's illness but that's just part of life and the hand she was dealt. Be a man and deal with it and the costs associated with it.
Secondly insurance is a benefit not a right. Just because you flip hamburgers at McDonald's or stock shelves at Wal-Mart doesn't mean you are entitled to free or damn near free insurance. Once again they are business and deserve to make a profit not make sure the employees are always happy and taken care of.

[stevo]

Do you want to fuck up a liberal '99%-er'?

Ask him when was the last time a poor person gave him a job. They will go into vapor lock.

Stevo

[DON SVO]

Do you want to fuck up a liberal '99%-er'?

Ask him when was the last time a poor person gave him a job. They will go into vapor lock.

Stevo

... because when you're protesting and posturing for a cause that you don't even understand, reality is something to be questioned and possibly even ignored.

He's not responsible for everything BUT He did more than his fair share to wreck this country.
I said earlier I'm not happy with Obama BUT I don't see a alternative. The Repubs are totally out of touch with the average person. The average person just wants a job and to live his or her life without being fucked with by the goverment. The Repubs are out for the 1%'ers and piss on the average guy. "Don't you dare kill the tax cut for the wealthy!" "We can't afford to keep the payroll tax cut" for the person who actually works for a living and needs it. This attitude will be what hurts the Repubs with the average voter.

The wealthy create jobs, broke dicks don't. Period.

OK... 47% of the population does not pay any taxes in come Federal Return time. There's enough write-offs, tax breaks and programs to allow the lower 47% of this country's workforce to avoid paying a dime towards the money it bitches about getting every year from Uncle Sam. It's tough to give a tax cut to someone who doesn't even contribute when the dust settles and, a lot of times, actually wants to the gov't to give them more (welfare as an example).

So, when the other 53% not only foot the bill for the collected taxes for 100% of the workforce, how do you complain about them NOT wanting tax breaks??? They're paying the way for almost half of the USA taxable workforce and that other half is basically saying, "not only do I want you to pay my taxes, I want you to give me perks I don't pay for, and... oh I almost forgot... I want you to pay MORE taxes next year"

That kind of person I cannot stand.

says the billionare who took 11 cookies and told the conservative to watch out for the other welfare/union/liberal, etc. Hes going to take that last cookie from you.

If you're talking about the current taxation then yes, I agree. That "99%er" is going to be the one snarfing down the last cookie.

2 curse words in one post. I didn't take you for one that resorted to childish name calling. I might post some controversial things, but even I haven't resorted to that level. I am dissapoint.

You are Dissapoint? I am Don.

This. for people that can look past the god/guns and pro-life crap. It's blatantly obvious. Rude awakening come November.

Damn right, I bet Barry's going to get in again simply because of a lack of Republican substance in the candidate. I hope Christie runs next election.

[majorownage]

No doubt. THAT is going to do more damage to the USA than the Patriot Act.

Huge dumbass detected.

[jasonw_2005]

To all that support Obama I only have one question. Is this country any better off than it was 4 years ago?

[stevo]

The wealthy create jobs, broke dicks don't. Period.

/end discussion.

To all that support Obama I only have one question. Is this country any better off than it was 4 years ago?

Incoming Bush blaming.

Stevo

[4eyedwillie]

You mention Bush and the Patriot Act, what do you think about Obama and his NDAA? And you don't remember the "If you don't vote for health care you want Americans to die?" campaign? And if you're upset about Iraq, I bet you're PISSED about Libya and Uganda

Why do you think I said I not happy with Obama? I just feel he's the lessor of the two evil right now. Come up with a viable 3rd party then we can talk. I also remember the Repubs Death panel regurgitation. What did the morons think happens now with ALL insurance companies???

Not so pissed about Libya. No American soldiers were hurt or killed in Libya. Did we send some money on bombs? Sure so what.

[4eyedwillie]

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The wealthy create jobs, broke dicks don't. Period.

Nice theory to bad Trickle down economics has been proven to be BS.

[Vertnut]

Nice theory to bad Trickle down economics has been proven to be BS.

I sign the FRONT of checks, not the back. Were you even ALIVE during the Reagan administration?

Obama's "trickle up" poverty damn sure does.

[stevo]

Nice theory to bad Trickle down economics has been proven to be BS.

How is that trickle up poverty working for ya?

Stevo