For those who still back Obama, why and what do you expect if there is a second term

[Vertnut]

No doubt. THAT is going to do more damage to the USA than the Patriot Act.

By far. EVERYONE of us will be affected by the ObamaCare.

[The King]

I'm not so much pro Dem as I am anti Repub. If there was a viable 3rd party I would probably support them.

Among the two parties I lean more to the Republicans, but I am not anti Democrat. I voted for Bill Clinton when he ran the first time, and I consider him to have been the last Democrat to have performed well as POTUS or to have been worthy of my vote for POTUS.

[Vertnut]

Among the two parties I lean more to the Republicans, but I am not anti Democrat. I voted for Bill Clinton when he ran the first time, and I consider him to have been the last Democrat to have performed well as POTUS or to have been worthy of my vote for POTUS.

...especially when the republicans had the house and the senate. Clinton is/was a political animal, and knew how to compromise. Ever think a democratic POTUS would pass welfare reform? LOL!

[4eyedwillie]

You mean like Obamacare was RAMMED through?

I don't recall anyone going on TV saying if you vote no on this act your anti-american and you want more americans killed when the Debate for the health bill came up. And FWIW the bill is NOTHING like what Obama wanted, or the Dems first proposed. The bill you have now is a compromise that the Repubs would accept. MOST of the objectionable parts of the bill only came in when the Dem started to compromise with the Repubs.

Not to mention who was running congress when all the other mess was going on, but lets blame it ALL on Bush/Cheney! The good thing about this, is that dems here in Texas have been de-nutted. Barry will not carry Texas, so their votes are worthless. Barry could get back into office, but the Reps will control the senate and the house. There are several dem senators who have decided to "retire" rather than take their ass-whipping in November. It's the very reason Barry is going on his huge power-grab. He knows he's done and he's going for whatever he can.

Well when you have the President going on national TV and saying if you don't your anti american and saying your either with us or you a terrorist what do you think a politician will do?
And yes the Dems in Texas have lost power but I can still cancel out your vote!

[Vertnut]

I don't recall anyone going on TV saying if you vote no on this act your anti-american and you want more americans killed when the Debate for the health bill came up. And FWIW the bill is NOTHING like what Obama wanted, or the Dems first proposed. The bill you have now is a compromise that the Repubs would accept. MOST of the objectionable parts of the bill only came in when the Dem started to compromise with the Repubs.




Well when you have the President going on national TV and saying if you don't your anti american and saying your either with us or you a terrorist what do you think a politician will do?
And yes the Dems in Texas have lost power but I can still cancel out your vote!

Sure, you can cancel my vote...if you and other dems vote. In most cases, where defeat is inevitable, a lot of people stay home. I think you will see a supercharged rep party here in Texas this year. It's showing up in local/state goverment as well. Not that long ago, Texas was all democrats. We've only had 3 republican governors in our states' history. Took a while for us to come around, but it might be a looooong time before we hand power over to another liberal.

[Gargamel]

I don't recall anyone going on TV saying if you vote no on this act your anti-american and you want more americans killed when the Debate for the health bill came up. And FWIW the bill is NOTHING like what Obama wanted, or the Dems first proposed. The bill you have now is a compromise that the Repubs would accept. MOST of the objectionable parts of the bill only came in when the Dem started to compromise with the Repubs.

You obviously didn't notice any news media during that time if you didn't catch the hysterics generated by the administration and Pelosi on capitol hill during that time frame. The crap that was going on on and off the floor of the House and Senate as Mistress Pelosi and the current administration cajoled, bought-off, and out right threatened a large amount of even fellow democrat members who didn't buy in.

Luckily, some of those who supported that train wreck are no longer employed by the government.....

The BS that occurred through that whole Obamacare drive in Congress was epic in proportion to the Patriot Act.

[Vertnut]

You obviously didn't notice any news media during that time if you didn't catch the hysterics generated by the administration and Pelosi on capitol hill during that time frame. The crap that was going on on and off the floor of the House and Senate as Mistress Pelosi and the current administration cajoled, bought-off, and out right threatened a large amount of even fellow democrat members who didn't buy in.

The BS that occurred through that whole Obamacare drive in Congress was epic in proportion to the Patriot Act.

Germany was full of guys like this when Hitler took power...

[4eyedwillie]

Sure, you can cancel my vote...if you and other dems vote. In most cases, where defeat is inevitable, a lot of people stay home. I think you will see a supercharged rep party here in Texas this year. It's showing up in local/state goverment as well. Not that long ago, Texas was all democrats. We've only had 3 republican governors in our states' history. Took a while for us to come around, but it might be a looooong time before we hand power over to another liberal.

Oh I'll be out there voting. And so will My friends. As I said earlier if there was a viable third party I would seriously consider it but there isn't.
There is a LARGE percentage of people in the middle that could go either way, if the repubs continue with thier tempertantrums they may just get a shock come November. IMO Obama has it locked in considering the TOTAL BoZO's the Repubs are throwing out their.

[4eyedwillie]

You obviously didn't notice any news media during that time if you didn't catch the hysterics generated by the administration and Pelosi on capitol hill during that time frame. The crap that was going on on and off the floor of the House and Senate as Mistress Pelosi and the current administration cajoled, bought-off, and out right threatened a large amount of even fellow democrat members who didn't buy in.

Luckily, some of those who supported that train wreck are no longer employed by the government.....

The BS that occurred through that whole Obamacare drive in Congress was epic in proportion to the Patriot Act.

REALLY??? LOL When did Obama call anyone unamerican for not voting for it? Or say on national tv that the people not voting for it would be risking american lives? Bush DID! To me that is HUGE!

[Vertnut]

Oh I'll be out there voting. And so will My friends. As I said earlier if there was a viable third party I would seriously consider it but there isn't.
There is a LARGE percentage of people in the middle that could go either way, if the repubs continue with thier tempertantrums they may just get a shock come November. IMO Obama has it locked in considering the TOTAL BoZO's the Repubs are throwing out their.

Don't buy into that. Obama is totally inept. I've been around long enough to remember everyone thinking Carter was a lock at this point in '80, too. It was devastating for the democratic party. He won 5 states...barely. He had a 25 point lead in all the polls over Reagan, who wasn't even a blip on the radar screen. During the debates, Ronnie made Carter look flat-out silly.

Oh, and you don't have enough friends to matter.

[Vertnut]

REALLY??? LOL When did Obama call anyone unamerican for not voting for it? Or say on national tv that the people not voting for it would be risking american lives? Bush DID! To me that is HUGE!

I guess we all need priorities...

By the way, anyone notice how many Iraqi's are getting blown up since Barry "ended" the war?

[4eyedwillie]

Germany was full of guys like this when Hitler took power...

No it wasn't because I'm totally against giving up my liberties like your IDOL bush rammed down our throats. Enough of me in Germany would have stopped Hitler. But I guess you would have been one of the ones wearing the SS symbol......

[4eyedwillie]

I guess we all need priorities...

By the way, anyone notice how many Iraqi's are getting blown up since Barry "ended" the war?

Ever wonder how many more would be alive if your IDOL Bush had never started it?

[Vertnut]

No it wasn't because I'm totally against giving up my liberties like your IDOL bush rammed down our throats. Enough of me in Germany would have stopped Hitler. But I guess you would have been one of the ones wearing the SS symbol......

He's not my idol. Where did you get that? You're a chickenshit. I can tell it in your voice...a do nothing. You'd have to be to give Barry your allegiance.

Don't turn pussy on me...

[Gargamel]

REALLY??? LOL When did Obama call anyone unamerican for not voting for it? Or say on national tv that the people not voting for it would be risking american lives? Bush DID! To me that is HUGE!

To me, that is his opinion.... One that I didn't agree with BTW.

It still does not validate your point that the Obama Administration's Congressional back stage antics on Obamacare was light years above and beyond anything that happened during the 8 years of W. (or anything within memory, and my memory starts at Ford BTW)