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  • #16
    Originally posted by Lason View Post
    Looks like they are going to punish the guy for doing that interview in his fatigues.

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    I knew that kid was in trouble the moment I saw the video. It's fine to talk about politicians, but not while wearing the uniform. However I think he'll probably just get a counseling statement (which is meaningless) or a a reprimand (which is meaningless when you leave the military).

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
      Like RP, your lack of foreign policy knowledge scares the shit outta me...and I'm fearless.
      Exactly. RP has NO shot at being president (thank god), but his staying in the race will provide another 4 yrs of Barry.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tyron Shulaces View Post
        Exactly. RP has NO shot at being president (thank god), but his staying in the race will provide another 4 yrs of Barry.
        RP staying in the race is a positive.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tyron Shulaces View Post
          Exactly. RP has NO shot at being president (thank god), but his staying in the race will provide another 4 yrs of Barry.
          I keep hearing this no shot/no chance at winning however the majority of the polling shows different. Not only that, but Romney with all his favoritism does only just slightly better vs obama than Paul does vs obama. And Paul is pretty much getting shit on 60-70% of the time. Long race still and only Paul/Romney have shown they have what it takes to make it all the way to the end.

          The Republican National Convention in Tampa this year will be interesting. Paul is high enough in the polls and has had very decent money so far. They are going to have to let him speak and I predict if they do not start walking the walk with what Paul is saying they risk losing a significant amount of support in the general election. I do not believe Paul will make a third party attempt. Rand is being groomed for the nomination within the next ten years and that could sour his support.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jw33 View Post
            I keep hearing this no shot/no chance at winning however the majority of the polling shows different. Not only that, but Romney with all his favoritism does only just slightly better vs obama than Paul does vs obama. And Paul is pretty much getting shit on 60-70% of the time. Long race still and only Paul/Romney have shown they have what it takes to make it all the way to the end.

            The Republican National Convention in Tampa this year will be interesting. Paul is high enough in the polls and has had very decent money so far. They are going to have to let him speak and I predict if they do not start walking the walk with what Paul is saying they risk losing a significant amount of support in the general election. I do not believe Paul will make a third party attempt. Rand is being groomed for the nomination within the next ten years and that could sour his support.

            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...andidates.html

            And dont forget that if RP goes against Obama, RP will naturally get all Romneys voters but along with the independants he attracts. The same cannot be said for Romney vs Obama.

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            • #21
              He got his punishment.

              The uniformed solider who endorsed Ron Paul during a rally in Iowa in January has been officially reprimanded by the US Army.

              After being cut short during a CNN interview on January 3, Reserve Corporal Jesse Thorsen, who has served two tours in Afghanistan and was due to head back for a third, was invited on to the stage by Paul himself to address Paul’s cheering supporters.

              “If there’s any man out there that’s had a vision out there, it’s definitely [Ron Paul],” Thorsen said. “His foreign policy is by far, hands down better than any other candidate’s out there, and I’m sure you all know that. We don’t need to be picking fights overseas and I think everybody else knows that, too.”

              Someone within the military infrastructure did not take kindly to Thorsen’s remarks, and a move was immediately set in motion to punish the 10-year veteran for his words.

              Detractors began pointing to Department of Defense Directive 1344.10 which states that active duty troops wearing a uniform are expected to avoid activities that “imply official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement” of political figures.

              As military news site Stars and Stripes reports, Army reserve officials said Thursday that Thorsen’s actions clearly violated Defense Department rules, and that a letter of reprimand has been placed in his personnel file. Following the announcement, Thorsen appeared on the Veterans for Ron Paul online radio show to defend his actions.

              “The Army works for Congress,” Thorsen said during the show. “If a Congressman invites you up on stage, doesn’t he have the right to do that?

              “Why can’t a combat veteran go up on stage and support a presidential candidate in his best suit, which is his American uniform?” Thorsen added, also noting that he had fully cooperated with the Army’s investigation.

              Thorsen added that he believed the reprimand was “absolutely worth it” because “it gave me the platform to spread the message of liberty and constitutional freedom to more people.”

              Thorsen also claimed that higher ups in the Army had been looking to throw the book at him for his actions, and that he was relieved to receive only a reprimand.

              “Let’s be frank – It basically says, ‘You’ve been a real bad soldier, don’t do that again.’… OK, I won’t.” Thorsen said.

              The Army is clearing aiming to make an example out of Thorsen. One has to question whether the same punishment would have been handed out if he had been seen endorsing anyone other than Ron Paul.

              Furthermore, over a thousand veterans, reservists and active duty soldiers, some in uniform, participated in a march on the White House for Ron Paul just one month later in February, where Thorsen also gave a speech.

              An email leaked prior to the event by multiple active duty personnel revealed that the military issued a warning to troops encouraging them not to take part in the march.

              Will the army reprimand thousands more soldiers? Unlikely, perhaps given that the event was roundly ignored by the mainstream media.

              The following video from Veterans for Ron Paul co-founder Adam Kokesh highlights Thorsen’s case and features the Corporal’s own comments and thoughts

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              • #22
                That Marine who has the facebook page that has been catching a lot of flak for saying he wouldn't follow UNLAWFUL orders issued by the president is looking at getting busted down and kicked out. They moved him into a job where he has no at work computer access also.

                I've already been talked to at work about my anti-Obama slant. I try to keep it out of work but politics comes up so much at work.

                I respect the office but not the man holding it. If he issues me a LAWFUL order I'd follow it but if he asked me to do something that I felt was unconstitutional or illegal I wouldn't. For some reason that's seen as "not following orders" by lots of folks. They dont' like it very much.
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                • #23
                  How is a US soldier not allowed to exercise their right to freedom of speech? I guess it doesn't matter that these people throw their life on the line to allow that right.
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                  • #24
                    The only real issues and military rule he broke there was he was in uniform while he did it. It's a no no and a rule you agreed to follow when you signed the dotted line.
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                    • #25
                      Ron Paul has put up with so much shit... All these other guys would just cry in a corner IMO. He just keep's on going. I really feel like he has a good head on his shoulders.
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                      • #26
                        anyone that believes that Ron Paul has any kind of a legitimate chance is a complete and total fucking idiot. That being said, I honestly believe he is setting the path for his son, Rand Paul to be president in 2016 if there is still a country left in 4 more years of a SMF sitting in the white house.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Downs View Post
                          I respect the office but not the man holding it. If he issues me a LAWFUL order I'd follow it but if he asked me to do something that I felt was unconstitutional or illegal I wouldn't. For some reason that's seen as "not following orders" by lots of folks. They dont' like it very much.
                          He's sworn to uphold the constitution just like you. If he asks you to do something other than that, then he is breaking the law.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by dee View Post
                            How is a US soldier not allowed to exercise their right to freedom of speech? I guess it doesn't matter that these people throw their life on the line to allow that right.
                            UCMJ states you cannot talk politics while in uniform. If he did it outside of uniform there wouldn't be an issue.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by tribaltalon View Post
                              anyone that believes that Ron Paul has any kind of a legitimate chance is a complete and total fucking idiot. That being said, I honestly believe he is setting the path for his son, Rand Paul to be president in 2016 if there is still a country left in 4 more years of a SMF sitting in the white house.
                              its because of people like you that he doesnt.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
                                He's sworn to uphold the constitution just like you. If he asks you to do something other than that, then he is breaking the law.
                                Well some people in the Marine Corps folks see not following an order and asking questions later causes a breakdown of "good order and discipline".


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