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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by majorownage View Post
    DRUDGE READERS FROM IOWA VOTE:

    PAUL 1,337 33.61%
    SANTORUM 847 21.29%
    ROMNEY 805 20.24%
    GINGRICH 418 10.18%
    PERRY 306 7.45%


    Lets see how rigged they make this caucus.
    I would assume Ron Paul's vote is going to be pretty inflated given the age group of his base. I'd predict a 30% inflation of his polling. I'd say he should do around 20-23%

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  • 46Tbird
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    Oh, ye of little faith...

    I think his presidency has been such a debacle, that most of the candidates running can pull it off.
    C'mon. You know that Obama can blame anything on Bush and get a free pass.

    Bush-bashing has been media dogma since 2000 and these young voters have never paid attention to politics when Bush WASN'T at fault for whatever is wrong with this country.

    If Obama is even moderately successful at deflecting blame to Bush, Congress, and wall street fat cats, he is home free.

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  • majorownage
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    DRUDGE READERS FROM IOWA VOTE:

    PAUL 1,337 33.61%
    SANTORUM 847 21.29%
    ROMNEY 805 20.24%
    GINGRICH 418 10.18%
    PERRY 306 7.45%


    Lets see how rigged they make this caucus.

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  • teal93derp
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    I think RP wins tonight, unless that 8th grader with $26 shows up! http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...achine-for-26/

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  • dblack1
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    Originally posted by mikec View Post
    Very valid sir!


    Mildly interested in the eight point lead over Romney that he is currently showing in that poll. Wonder how skewed those numbers are?

    In their, presumably based on IPs, initial analysis of just Iowan voters it's at 12%. Landslide, anyone?
    MSN has romney at 51%. Talk about rigged.

    I believe deep down we have a shot at seeing three evenly spread front runners.

    I don't know a single person who love romney, or has them as their pick at the moment. I find it hard to believe he is already the front runner.

    I just hope they can gain control of the senate.

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  • mikec
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    Most will just stay home. RP has a good segment of the youth, but nothing like Barry did, mainly because liberalism is rampant on college campuses.


    Very valid sir!


    Mildly interested in the eight point lead over Romney that he is currently showing in that poll. Wonder how skewed those numbers are?

    In their, presumably based on IPs, initial analysis of just Iowan voters it's at 12%. Landslide, anyone?

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by mikec View Post
    I'm hoping that there is some residual excitement remaining amongst those college kids, though it is a new crop this go round. Sure hope a large number realize how badly they fucked it up the first time around and try to make amends on this one...
    Most will just stay home. RP has a good segment of the youth, but nothing like Barry did, mainly because liberalism is rampant on college campuses.

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  • mikec
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    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
    Obama bombarded colleges and universities. The youth vote helped him get in. He was "cool and hip" and the college kids fell for it. No sin in that, as I was silly once, too. They are saying the campuses are not nearly as fired up, and some of his "mandates" have hurt students (i.e. the whole student loan thing).

    I'm hoping that there is some residual excitement remaining amongst those college kids, though it is a new crop this go round. Sure hope a large number realize how badly they fucked it up the first time around and try to make amends on this one...

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    Obama/Biden won because a completely unelectable McCain/Palin ran against them.

    Sadly, the Republicans still have not learned their lesson. I don't think it's going to be difficult to paint Ron Paul and Mitt Romney as wackos, Newt Gingrich as just another bitter old white asshole, and Rick Perry as a complete moron. If we're being honest with ourselves, we all know the rest of the candidates don't even matter.

    I can't stand Obama, but I don't see any of the Republicans beating him.
    Oh, ye of little faith...

    I think his presidency has been such a debacle, that most of the candidates running can pull it off.

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  • Vertnut
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    Originally posted by mikec View Post
    If I understand history correctly, obsama was voted in by the youth vote. That is, at least, how the media has portrayed it. You, as a student of history, understand that point well. No? Is it not possible that the youth vote swings two successive votes?
    Obama bombarded colleges and universities. The youth vote helped him get in. He was "cool and hip" and the college kids fell for it. No sin in that, as I was silly once, too. They are saying the campuses are not nearly as fired up, and some of his "mandates" have hurt students (i.e. the whole student loan thing).

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    Sounds good on paper. Don't forget that 18% you mentioned a few posts above.
    I think it will be substantially reduced as all the magic has left him, and a lot of the community doesn't (yet) have the ambition to defend his presidency. The Black vote is also historically low turnout. I predict massive voter fraud but it still won't even matter.

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  • mikec
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    Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
    Obama has to convince the public to completely ignore everything he has done in office. All of the economic figures, all of the legislation, everything. That's going to be pretty damn hard. I highly doubt he will be re-elected. You have the left, very disappointed in what he has accomplished, or more so what he hasn't accomplished. And you have the right, which is invigorated like never before to get him out of there.

    I pray that he is unable to accomplish that!

    And I see what you are saying on the vote now. It was purely racist. Sad, but true.


    And good point on the 18% Danny. I do hope that you are incorrect on your muse...

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  • 46Tbird
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    Sounds good on paper. Don't forget that 18% you mentioned a few posts above.

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    Obama/Biden won because a completely unelectable McCain/Palin ran against them.

    Sadly, the Republicans still have not learned their lesson. I don't think it's going to be difficult to paint Ron Paul and Mitt Romney as wackos, Newt Gingrich as just another bitter old white asshole, and Rick Perry as a complete moron. If we're being honest with ourselves, we all know the rest of the candidates don't even matter.

    I can't stand Obama, but I don't see any of the Republicans beating him.
    Obama has to convince the public to completely ignore everything he has done in office. All of the economic figures, all of the legislation, everything. That's going to be pretty damn hard. I highly doubt he will be re-elected. You have the left, very disappointed in what he has accomplished, or more so what he hasn't accomplished. And you have the right, which is invigorated like never before to get him out of there.

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  • 46Tbird
    replied
    Obama/Biden won because a completely unelectable McCain/Palin ran against them.

    Sadly, the Republicans still have not learned their lesson. I don't think it's going to be difficult to paint Ron Paul and Mitt Romney as wackos, Newt Gingrich as just another bitter old white asshole, and Rick Perry as a complete moron. If we're being honest with ourselves, we all know the rest of the candidates don't even matter.

    I can't stand Obama, but I don't see any of the Republicans beating him.

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