Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

surprise surprise: US economy grew more slowly in summer than thought

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • surprise surprise: US economy grew more slowly in summer than thought

    More numbers being juggled by the 0bama regime. And 'lol' at the bold.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy grew more slowly over the summer than previously thought, with consumers spending less than the government had first estimated. But economists expect growth in the current October-December quarter to be stronger.

    The Commerce Department says the economy grew at an annual rate of 1.8 percent in the July-September quarter. That was the fastest growth this year, up from 1.3 percent in the April-June quarter. But it was down slightly from last month's estimate that the economy was expanding at a 2 percent rate over the summer.

    The government now estimates that consumer spending grew at a 1.7 percent annual rate last summer, instead of 2.3 percent. The updated estimate reflects data showing less spending on hospitals.

    Economists think the economy is growing at an annual rate of more than 3 percent in the final three months of this year. That would be the fastest pace since a 3.8 percent performance in the spring of 2010.

    Among the positive factors are a brightening job market, strong holiday shopping, further gains in factory production and cheaper gas prices, which leave consumers with more money to spend on other items.

    Stronger growth would be needed to significantly drive down the unemployment rate. Unemployment did fall to 8.6 percent last month after remaining around 9 percent for 2½ years. The rate is now the lowest since March 2009, two months after President Barack Obama took office.

    Obama faces a re-election vote in less than a year, and the presidential race will focus on the economy. He may face voters next November with the highest unemployment of a sitting president seeking election since World War II. Unemployment was 7.8 percent when Obama took office in January 2009.

    There are also threats that could derail the economy's modest recovery. The biggest is Europe, where the 17 nations that use the common euro currency are struggling to deal with debt problems and keep their currency union together. Many economists are worried that Europe has entered another recession, which would be bad news for U.S. companies that export to that region.

    Another source of uncertainty for 2012 is what Congress will do about extending the payroll tax cut. The tax cut, which benefits 160 million Americans, is set to expire Jan. 1. Also expiring on Jan. 1 will be extended unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed.

    If lawmakers don't renew the tax cut and the extended benefits, it could lower economic growth by as much a full percentage point in 2012.

    Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody's Analytics, said he is forecasting economic growth of 2.6 percent for 2012 if the tax cut and extended benefits are renewed. But if those programs are allowed to lapse, Zandi predicted the economy will only grow by 1.7 percent next year, a lackluster pace that would match what many analysts expect for all of 2011.
    Stevo
    Originally posted by SSMAN
    ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

  • #2
    If it weren't for all the bullshit out of Europe, everyone would be elated by the US data lately.
    Originally posted by davbrucas
    I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

    Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

    You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

    Comment


    • #3
      And yet, now, they're even talking about granting another extension to the long term unemployed. Its looking like its going to get done. To clarify, that is for people who have used up the other 4 or 5 (3 month) extensions to unemployment benefits. So if you haven't worked in years, even though you're perfectly capable, eh, no big deal. Have some more free money.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by slow99 View Post
        If it weren't for all the bullshit out of Europe, everyone would be elated by the US data lately.
        Are we coming out of it?
        www.allforoneroofing.com

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by stevo View Post
          More numbers being juggled by the 0bama regime. And 'lol' at the bold.

          Stevo

          It is no different than in any other administration. The fact is that those original numbers are mostly put together through computer modeling.

          The same goes for many other indicators put out by the government. That is why they always have to revise them. One indicator is an outright lie is inflation. It is always higher then the feds say it is because Social Security COLA is tied to it.

          If the feds wanted to have a real economic indicator, they should compile the sales tax receipts for every state and municipality in the country. You would get an instant report on the state of the economy down to the neighborhood level, if so desired.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Sgt Beavis View Post
            It is no different than in any other administration. The fact is that those original numbers are mostly put together through computer modeling.

            The same goes for many other indicators put out by the government. That is why they always have to revise them. One indicator is an outright lie is inflation. It is always higher then the feds say it is because Social Security COLA is tied to it.

            If the feds wanted to have a real economic indicator, they should compile the sales tax receipts for every state and municipality in the country. You would get an instant report on the state of the economy down to the neighborhood level, if so desired.
            I agree with your statements, but this administration is campaigning around the exaggerated percentages.

            Another thing about the inflation calculations, IIRC they do not include the increased price of food or fuel (gasoline and diesel) in the numbers.

            Stevo
            Originally posted by SSMAN
            ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

            Comment


            • #7
              those that put Mr. Obama in office know damn well they are no better off now than they were before! the handouts are eventually going to have to stop. i think most politicians are full of shit whether gop or doj. i wouldnt trust either side to look out for anyone but themselves.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by stanleyjustintaliwhacker95 View Post
                and yet, now, they're even talking about granting another extension to the long term unemployed. Its looking like its going to get done. To clarify, that is for people who have used up the other 4 or 5 (3 month) extensions to unemployment benefits. So if you haven't worked in years, even though you're perfectly capable, eh, no big deal. Have some more free money.
                score!!!
                ازدهار رأسه برعشيت

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by mikec View Post
                  Are we coming out of it?
                  Slowly.

                  The markets are still getting an ass raping all due to Europe right now..
                  Originally posted by Cmarsh93z
                  Don't Fuck with DFWmustangs...the most powerfull gang I have ever been a member of.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stevo View Post
                    I agree with your statements, but this administration is campaigning around the exaggerated percentages.

                    Another thing about the inflation calculations, IIRC they do not include the increased price of food or fuel (gasoline and diesel) in the numbers.

                    Stevo
                    There are numerous measurements of inflation. One measurement (core) excludes food and energy.
                    Originally posted by davbrucas
                    I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                    Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                    You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X