No Bibles at Walter Reed

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This was not a combat decision, this was a decision to avoid offending one group while having no problem with offending another. Yes, I see burning bible and have a mental meltdown but at least I don't firebomb offices who put up pictures of Jesus in a cartoon.

The Bibles could have easily been stored in the chapel for use by those who wished to use them. There was no reason to burn them. Oddly enough, I remember everyone throwing a fit about a koran burning in Florida talking about how it'd offend someone and shouldn't be done, but you can't muster the empathy to see how this could be offensive to a huge swath of people and shouldn't be done?

It's not a combat decision, it's a command decision that was poorly made.

As I said, and bcoop reiterated, it was a "command decision in combat". The Bibles were meant to be distributed to Afghanis. I can see now how you and the church would be having a fit if the military kept them for their personal use, instead of distributing them. Nevermind they were in Pastu or Dari which I'm sure a whole 4 or 5 people in a batallion can read, if that.

I still don't know how many times I need to repeat the difference in mission impacts to you.

How's the warrior ethos start? "I will always place my feelings first"?

[Forever_frost]

I always place the mission first. My mission was put first, to the detriment of my life, my health and mental stability.

So back to the original statement. Burning Bibles, a holy book which offends millions is fine, burning a Koran which offends millions is bad. Just checking

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I always place the mission first. My mission was put first, to the detriment of my life, my health and mental stability.

So back to the original statement. Burning Bibles, a holy book which offends millions is fine, burning a Koran which offends millions is bad. Just checking

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I still don't know how many times I need to repeat the difference in mission impacts to you.

[racrguy]

I always place the mission first. My mission was put first, to the detriment of my life, my health and mental stability.

So back to the original statement. Burning Bibles, a holy book which offends millions is fine, burning a Koran which offends millions is bad. Just checking

Not in this case.

[Forever_frost]

Yes, in this case. If the Bibles are placed in storage, they are doing nothing wrong and incapable of causing harm. You do not burn a holy book. Wasn't that what you were harping Racr when the preacher in Florida decided to burn one?

[racrguy]

Yes, in this case. If the Bibles are placed in storage, they are doing nothing wrong and incapable of causing harm. You do not burn a holy book. Wasn't that what you were harping Racr when the preacher in Florida decided to burn one?

No, not in this case. What is the military going to do with those bibles, store them indefinitely? They can't send them back because someone will draw the conclusion (albeit, wrong) that the bibles came from the military, they can't distribute them to soldiers that want them because they aren't printed in a language that very many, if any, can read, and they can't store them forever. It's best to just discard them and be done with it. They were discarded, and the rules said you burned all trash, so they were burned.

No, I actually cheered the guy on when he burned one, because it's his right, and it's fun to poke at people with ridiculous ideologies. I do not hold any holy books with any reverence, so why would I get mad at this guy for burning a book?

[Maddhattter]

Yes, in this case. If the Bibles are placed in storage, they are doing nothing wrong and incapable of causing harm. You do not burn a holy book. Wasn't that what you were harping Racr when the preacher in Florida decided to burn one?

It should also be pointed out, that even if everyone on the board was for or against the Florida preacher, it would carry no relevance in this situation.

This situation involves service members violating protocol(having religious material delivered to them with the purpose of proselytization), and command determining that the violation(the religious material) was to be disposed of. So, they threw them in the trash. The policy is to burn all trash. So, they were burned with the rest of the refuse.

The situation with the Florida preacher was a man who was exercising his first amendment rights by burning a qur'an citing his religion as the reason. He was trying to make a demonstration to prove a point.

If someone opposed the preacher on the grounds of him offending people, that is completely different because that was his entire purpose. There is no evidence to support that the burning of the bibles was done for any other reason aside from the fact that they were in the trash.

[SMEGMA STENCH]

For the record, I've exposed you for the brainless window licker that you are, many times over. YOU are the only one here delusional enough to believe that you've ever won any sort of argument, with any board member here. Say what you will. No sweat off my back. Just remember, there's an 8+ page thread full of backwards ass retarded StanleyTweedlisms. That's not a compliment, FWIW.

Annnd there we go. Thanks for proving my point though.

If you're stupid enough to think that anyone, anywhere, at any time ever "won" an argument over the internet, then congratulations you just went from nematode to amoeba. But hey, look at it this way. Its all uphill for you, you filth. But no, as usual, you're wrong. You may think there's an 8 page thread full of backwards stanleytweedleisms, but there is really just 8 pages of me laughing at all the things you morons will believe/disbelieve and then spend your own personal time (off work, I assume) trying to disprove. As I've had to tell exlewd more than once, (as I typically do to get through his overly thick skull) that whole thing was nothing but my idea of a knee slapping good time. But, continue being yourself, I guess. Its amusing to me, if nothing else.

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Annnd there we go. Thanks for proving my point though.

If you're stupid enough to think that anyone, anywhere, at any time ever "won" an argument over the internet, then congratulations you just went from nematode to amoeba. But hey, look at it this way. Its all uphill for you, you filth. But no, as usual, you're wrong. You may think there's an 8 page thread full of backwards stanleytweedleisms, but there is really just 8 pages of me laughing at all the things you morons will believe/disbelieve and then spend your own personal time (off work, I assume) trying to disprove. As I've had to tell exlewd more than once, (as I typically do to get through his overly thick skull) that whole thing was nothing but my idea of a knee slapping good time. But, continue being yourself, I guess. Its amusing to me, if nothing else.

Here's the problem with that. You can continue to claim it's just a "knee slapping good time", but like 99% of your other posts...that's bullshit.

[Up0n0ne]

Que it up at :30 and listen all the way through. It explains how US solder's are to handle the koran.
a. Clean gloves will be put on in plain view of detainees prior to handling.
b.Two hands will be used at all times when handling the koran in manner signaling respect and reverence. Care should be used so that the right hand is the primary one used to munipulate any part of the koran due to the cultural association with the left hand. Handle the koran as if it were a fragile piece of delicate art.
BUT
Bible's written in Pashtue and Dari (sp) the two most common Afghan languages, were sent to a US Solder in Afghan. Later were burned by the US Govt. so not to distributed.
BTW: Love the ending.

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You didn't read any of the thread, did you?

[Up0n0ne]

You didn't read any of the thread, did you?

I'm replying to the original post, not the 2nd page. Actually once I read where it was headed when rcrguy posted I stopped. lol

And the video is really just an ad on to my earlier post of why I'm not surprised, not a reply to anyone's post.

[SMEGMA STENCH]

Here's the problem with that. You can continue to claim it's just a "knee slapping good time", but like 99% of your other posts...that's bullshit.

Whatever you say lol. The fact that you think that someone would actually come here and say all that shit, and NOT be screwing around, says a lot about you. I mean really? I'd have to be so insane as to not even be able to concentrate on what I was doing, long enough to even be able to post. I wouldn't even have access to a computer cause I'd be somewhere with the guys in white suits in waco. I know you're not this thick... or are you?

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Whatever you say lol. The fact that you think that someone would actually come here and say all that shit, and NOT be screwing around, says a lot about you. I mean really? I'd have to be so insane as to not even be able to concentrate on what I was doing, long enough to even be able to post. I wouldn't even have access to a computer cause I'd be somewhere with the guys in white suits in waco. I know you're not this thick... or are you?

While I wouldn't take it that far, there is definetely something wrong with you. Does a pathological liar qualify as insane?

[SMEGMA STENCH]

Backpedaling is your specialty huh? You just did take it that far, simply by implying that it wasn't really me just joking or screwing around or trolling. Ima start calling you backpedalerclude. Cause you've sure been doing a lot of it lately.