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    This bullshit is only going to get worse until WE put a stop to it.

    RIO GRANDE VALLEY, Texas - Every day students in Texas public schools pledge allegiance to the flags of the United States and Texas.

    But when a teacher in a Rio Grande Valley high school assigned students to stand and pledge allegiance to the Mexican flag and sing Mexico's national anthem, one student refused.

    The resulting controversy has one East Texas lawmaker wanting changes in the state's curriculum on how culture and patriotism are taught in schools.

    15-year-old Brenda Brinsdon entered her sophomore year at McAllen ISD's Achieve Early College High School just wanting to do well in her classes.

    But in mid-September she got an unexpected lesson on personal conviction and taking on the system.

    "I feel that I did what's right," Brinsdon said. "And I know what I did what's right [...] I'm going to stand my ground."

    Brinsdon said she stood her ground by staying seated when first-year Spanish 3 teacher Reyna Santos assigned her class to stand and recite Mexico's pledge of allegiance.

    Students stood with right arms straight out and palms down, which is how the school district says Mexicans say their pledge.

    Calling the lesson "un-American," Brinsdon recorded the class, which occurred the week of Mexico's Independence Day and also the 10th anniversary of 9/11.

    The teacher also told students to memorize and recite the the pledge individually.

    And when the time came for the part of the assignment to sing Mexico's national anthem, Brinsdon again refused.

    With that, Santos asked the class to stand and led the class in the anthem.

    "I told her, I was like, 'I thought this was a Spanish class,'" Brinsdon recalled. "And she's like, 'Well, yeah it is, it's like, it's a cultural thing.' And so I was the only one that sat down."

    She was given an alternate assignment.

    Brinsdon's father, William, backs his daughter. He said that reciting a pledge to any other nation has no place in public schools.

    "What are we to do? Just lay down and let it happen?" Mr. Brinsdon said. "Or should we stand up for our country?"

    Santos couldn't be reached for comment.

    The school district declined several News 8 requests to interview someone with the district.

    But in a statement, said it was a single lesson on Hispanic culture in one class at one campus, the lesson will be reviewed and students recite the U.S. pledge daily.

    This Spanish class assignment, Brenda Brisdon's refusal and the school district's response caused a firestorm on the right.

    Conservative websites erupted, getting the attention of Republican State Representative Dan Flynn of Canton.

    "It was a shock to me," he said.

    The Texas Education Agency says the state curriculum outlines what must be taught, but local districts decide how it's taught.

    Flynn said since the state allows that much discretion, he'll file a bill again to require more mandatory studies on the U.S. Constitution.

    "I do have a problem if we're making that the assignment for young people to stand up and pledge to another country," Flynn said. "It lessens the value of the pledge to the United States flag."

    After no one with the district agreed to an interview, News 8 confronted McAllen School Board President Sam Saldivar after a meeting. He indicated he didn't agree with the lesson.

    "I would have taken a different approach, again I'm not an educator," Saldivar said.

    But as the leader of the board that sets policy, Saldivar said there's no decision yet on whether to change the curriculum.

    "That's a curriculum, a teacher working with the administration," Saldiver said. "As I understand it, it's going to be reviewed, and more likely a better approach will be taken in the future."

    Dallas Democratic State Representative Roberto Alonzo said to question the loyalty of the teacher and school district is unfair.

    "This is a class," Alonzo said. "This is not doing allegiance to Mexico, it's not you know you are going to be part of Mexico, this is just a class to learn Spanish - to learn an aspect of what is Texas."

    Brinsdon said she's been pulled from Santos' class and gets her lessons separately now. Despite the controversy, she has no regrets.

    "I really hope that I was an inspiration to a lot of youth in America to stand up for what's right," Brinsdon said.

    E-mail bwatson@wfaa.com

  • #2
    I took a total of 6 years of spanish in 3 different states, to include Kommifornia, and never had to pledge allegiance to another country in order to learn (and later forget) the Spanish language.
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    • #3
      Props to that kid!
      "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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      • #4
        If it was during some Mexican Heritage timeframe, only one classroom with one overzealous teacher and the USA pledge is sang... I think it's getting blown a bit out of proportion. It's Level 3 Spanish, that's a class you choose to take. You do Mexican-ish things in Spanish class. It isn't like she's being forced to recite the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance in afternoon Algebra class. I disagree with having the kids do it, but she refused to recite it and was given an alternate assignment without being reprimanded for her refusal.

        I'd raise an eyebrow if it were a district-wide mandated thing like we keep seeing roll out of Kalifornia from time-to-time.
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        • #5
          God damn. They need to discipline that teacher.

          That shit pisses me off.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by DON SVO View Post
            If it was during Mexican Heritage week, only one classroom with one overzealous teacher and the USA pledge is sang... I think it's getting blown a bit out of proportion. It's Level 3 Spanish, that's a class you choose to take. It isn't like she's being forced to do it in afternoon Algebra class. I disagree with having the kids do it, but she refused to recite it and was given an alternate assignment without being reprimanded for her refusal.

            I'd raise an eyebrow if it were a district-wide mandated thing like we keep seeing roll out of Kalifornia from time-to-time.
            It starts with one class...

            Nip it in the bud, IMO.
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            • #7
              Yeah, it seems like an over-reaction and I think the teacher should just be warned (assuming no prior issues with teacher) and not fired or anything. I think it's good to make it clear this is not right - but the discipline should not be a career ending decision.

              Kudos to the student IN THIS CASE. A pledge is a pledge no matter how you cut it, and Americans should only do pledges/oaths that pertain to the US.

              I think it could be assumed that a lot of Spanish teachers would have pride in countries such as Mexico. However, this is the US after all and you're choosing to work/live here.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
                It starts with one class...

                Nip it in the bud, IMO.
                I disagree in this instance regarding 'it starts with one class'... It's during Mexico's Independence week or whatever, in an advanced Year 3 spanish class and as a class assignment that in no way interfered with OUR pledge. I don't like the subject matter (another countries pledge) but it was not a mandated recital made in conjunction with our pledge.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DON SVO View Post
                  I disagree in this instance regarding 'it starts with one class'... It's during Mexico's Independence week or whatever, in an advanced Year 3 spanish class and as a class assignment that in no way interfered with OUR pledge. I don't like the subject matter (another countries pledge) but it was not a mandated recital made in conjunction with our pledge.
                  I see your point. My angle is if it becomes "accepted" in this instance, it could easily become an "assignment" for the lower classes.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
                    I see your point. My angle is if it becomes "accepted" in this instance, it could easily become an "assignment" for the lower classes.
                    Oh I agree with that, however I don't see that becoming acceptable. At least not in our present political climate and in Texas.
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                    • #11
                      I agree with Don.

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                      • #12
                        ...

                        Originally posted by DON SVO View Post
                        If it was during some Mexican Heritage timeframe, only one classroom with one overzealous teacher and the USA pledge is sang... I think it's getting blown a bit out of proportion. It's Level 3 Spanish, that's a class you choose to take. You do Mexican-ish things in Spanish class. It isn't like she's being forced to recite the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance in afternoon Algebra class. I disagree with having the kids do it, but she refused to recite it and was given an alternate assignment without being reprimanded for her refusal.

                        I'd raise an eyebrow if it were a district-wide mandated thing like we keep seeing roll out of Kalifornia from time-to-time.
                        I do agree to some extent. However, I also believe the pledge of allegiance is something to be taken seriously and I think it is unpatriotic, even treasonous to pledge to another flag or country. Especially since people are trying to prevent us from pledging to our own flag. The fabric of our country is slowly being destroyed and this is just another example.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
                          The pledge of allegiance is something to take serious and I think it is unpatriotic, even treasonous to pledge to another flag or country.
                          I agree, but it was part of a school lesson that she was allowed to opt out of. It wasn't a mandated recital. She was given an alternate assignment and was not reprimanded. While I am right in line with you on the aspect of holding our pledge near and dear, this wasn't a treasonous act by definition or by motivation.
                          Originally posted by PGreenCobra
                          I can't get over the fact that you get to go live the rest of your life, knowing that someone made a Halloween costume out of you. LMAO!!
                          Originally posted by Trip McNeely
                          Originally posted by dsrtuckteezy
                          dont downshift!!
                          Go do a whooly in front of a Peterbilt.

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                          • #14
                            Make them learn the Pledge to the American Flag in Spanish - problem solved. Nothing wrong with Spanish, but there's no reason to pledge allegiance to another country to learn it.

                            I skimmed the article, but it sounds like the teacher was nice enough about it and gave the kid an alternate assignment with little/no hassle. Poor choice on the teacher's part but it doesn't necessarily seem like she had an agenda, maybe it was just a well-intentioned mistake? Either way I agree, nip it in the bud.
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                            • #15
                              It should have gotten shut down.

                              Some of us take pledges or oaths pretty seriously. I know I do with the Pledge of Allegiance, my Oath of Enlistment, and my Oath of Office.

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