Peaceful OWS

[Forever_frost]

Not at all. I don't talk to anyone from here outside of anything I post on the forums. Paranoia and delusions. Where is our resident doc?

[ceyko]

You are so wrong it's not funny and I, as a former soldier, wish you would give it a rest. FF is getting paid for service rendered. End of story. Thanks.

Glad you posted it and I concur. Hell, 90% of the time I disagree with FF.

Treadhead SMASH!

racrguy, interpretation of the definition or not - don't try to spin it like he's a leeching loser. I don't know you, and I bet you're alright to be around. However, you really come off as a self entitled, close minded prick. I don't take religion or much of anything personal, except insults to military personnel - current or former. Show some damned respect and do your debate without insinuating that he is a loser and is anywhere in the same realm as OWS or any other social program that sucks.

Also, I know you'll nit pick every little aspect and say you've said none of that. You're so smart, and all that BS. I don't give a damn. I'm a close minded prick on this subject.

[The King]

Since you're brain damaged, why don't you ask Lea to help you understand it. I hear she's got a degree in teaching waterheads.

I just have to love being called a waterhead. I'm sure it was drained when they dug the stopper out

Good job denigrating yourself racrboy with the limp-wristed attempt at a personal insult......really would read again and again.

[racrguy]

Glad you posted it and I concur. Hell, 90% of the time I disagree with FF.

Treadhead SMASH!

racrguy, interpretation of the definition or not - don't try to spin it like he's a leeching loser. I don't know you, and I bet you're alright to be around. However, you really come off as a self entitled, close minded prick. I don't take religion or much of anything personal, except insults to military personnel - current or former. Show some damned respect and do your debate without insinuating that he is a loser and is anywhere in the same realm as OWS or any other social program that sucks.

Also, I know you'll nit pick every little aspect and say you've said none of that. You're so smart, and all that BS. I don't give a damn. I'm a close minded prick on this subject.

I wasn't trying to make it sound like he was a leeching loser, I distinctly remember in one of my earlier posts saying that I'm perfectly fine with the benefits he is receiving, my point of contention was the label that he uses. He thinks it isn't socialism, but the definition disagrees with him, and I've explained how.

I'm generally very respectful of those that serve, until they start insinuating that they have or should have more rights than others. And AFAIK he was the first person to bring up what exactly his disability was. I'm posting from my phone, I'll go back and read the whole thread later and amend this post if I'm wrong on that account.

[jasone]

Where are the board OWS defenders?

[stevo]

Also, I know you'll nit pick every little aspect and say you've said none of that.

The gift of foresight is strong with this one.

Stevo

[Cobra86]

good job denigrating yourself racrboy with the limp-wristed attempt at a personal insult......really would read again and again.

lol

[Bad A$$ Coupe]

You are so wrong it's not funny and I, as a former soldier, wish you would give it a rest. FF is getting paid for service rendered. End of story. Thanks.

really like someone on disability getting welfare? not everyone grows up to WANT to be a soldier and it doesnt make anyone LESS of a person.... no one forced you guys to be soldiers! i respect that you guys served but dont wear that shit out bro!

[ceyko]

really like someone on disability getting welfare? not everyone grows up to WANT to be a soldier and it doesnt make anyone LESS of a person.... no one forced you guys to be soldiers! i respect that you guys served but dont wear that shit out bro!

So are you saying that you look at someone like FF or the hundreds/thousands of others who are on disability from the military; the same as you would someone who...say did not and got no discipline and is a leech and did NOTHING for society/the country?

Also, I think you need to consider that not EVERYONE...

a. Has what it takes to join
b. Has what it takes to not go insane when under fire
c. Hell, just getting through Army (which admittedly is second to the Marines) creates a lot of washouts.

I do not agree that no one forces someone to join. Granted, no contract or gun to the head. However, true patriotism is why a lot of people I know joined. Granted, you have some that went for the GI Bill - but in my opinion it's the ultimate way to serve your country and society. Give back a little for this great country (minus the politicians).

With that said, I don't see how anyone can lump a military member on disability, with the general lame people who are trying to leech.

On one hand yes a military member..

a. Volunteers
b. Does their job

That's fine, but they do so with the stipulation of...

a. A list of benefits, one of them being disability.

Hell, my insurance has disability - short and long term. Does that put me in another bucket if I get hurt and utilize it?

I assure you from a personnel perspective - you're getting a lot for the money. Most out process and don't cost the taxpayers anymore. In the cases where a military member needs "disability" - it was in their benefit package and they earned it from us.

I appreciate your opinion, but it just makes me sad to think people would consider a disabled Veteran the same as a standard welfare leech.

[jasone]

[racrguy]

So are you saying that you look at someone like FF or the hundreds/thousands of others who are on disability from the military; the same as you would someone who...say did not and got no discipline and is a leech and did NOTHING for society/the country?

Also, I think you need to consider that not EVERYONE...

a. Has what it takes to join
b. Has what it takes to not go insane when under fire
c. Hell, just getting through Army (which admittedly is second to the Marines) creates a lot of washouts.

I do not agree that no one forces someone to join. Granted, no contract or gun to the head. However, true patriotism is why a lot of people I know joined. Granted, you have some that went for the GI Bill - but in my opinion it's the ultimate way to serve your country and society. Give back a little for this great country (minus the politicians).

With that said, I don't see how anyone can lump a military member on disability, with the general lame people who are trying to leech.

On one hand yes a military member..

a. Volunteers
b. Does their job

That's fine, but they do so with the stipulation of...

a. A list of benefits, one of them being disability.

Hell, my insurance has disability - short and long term. Does that put me in another bucket if I get hurt and utilize it?

I assure you from a personnel perspective - you're getting a lot for the money. Most out process and don't cost the taxpayers anymore. In the cases where a military member needs "disability" - it was in their benefit package and they earned it from us.

I appreciate your opinion, but it just makes me sad to think people would consider a disabled Veteran the same as a standard welfare leech.

For the record, I do NOT see disabled Vets the same as people on welfare.

[Bad A$$ Coupe]

For the record, I do NOT see disabled Vets the same as people on welfare.

Not the same but similar situations.... and volunteer means you do it because you want and are ready to suffer the consequences that it carries.... Like I said I respect vets but I am tired of hearing SOME of them use it in every conversation..... You signed up got benefits that evens out the slate no one owes you anymore that those on welfare..... It was a job that was a contract that you took... I was at the meps at 18 ready to sign and didn’t and took a diff option..... Should you get a check after you where hurt on the job? yes, should the person that can’t feed themselves get food stamps why not, we can fund wars that don’t do SHIT for us here why not feed our own, have you been in some of these peoples shoes? I don’t care how you put it MOST of you including me haven’t and that means.... and I have been through some tough shit! Serving, I serve my country in a different form and so does every American that doesn’t go to war!

[CexMashean]

warbargarbahl

Nice to see you're still a fucking moron.

[racrguy]

Can somebody translate that for me? Maybe I'm not reading it right, but is he trying to call me out on something?

He should take lessons on making clear, concise statements.

[Forever_frost]

What I think he's saying is he chickened out at MEPS and now thinks that those injured in service to the country are on the same page as those who can't feed themselves and should stop talking about service. I do like the "I serve my country as does everyone who doesn't go to war." Really?

How have you served and sacrificed for the Republic?