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  • #46
    Wait, you said I was a communist. Which is it?

    And there would be private property. You could buy the land from me that your place is on, but I do collect taxes and if you're not productive, you're gone. So, kind of defeats your definition again.

    I'm currently enjoying a retirement package that I worked for. The keyword is work. I labored for my pay that I currently receive. Were I a socialist, I've have never worked and would be on welfare. Keep trying.

    I never said I wouldn't be a dictator. I said I'd be a capitialistic monarch. Only those I deigned worthy would be on my island. Period. So am I a dictator, socialist or communist? Pick one and stick with it
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    • #47
      What you're literally saying is this:

      I'm the supreme leader who keeps everything for himself AND distributes it equally to all? Do you not see the stupidity in that? Or in your words..derp?
      I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
        Wait, you said I was a communist. Which is it?

        And there would be private property. You could buy the land from me that your place is on, but I do collect taxes and if you're not productive, you're gone. So, kind of defeats your definition again.

        I'm currently enjoying a retirement package that I worked for. The keyword is work. I labored for my pay that I currently receive. Were I a socialist, I've have never worked and would be on welfare. Keep trying.

        I never said I wouldn't be a dictator. I said I'd be a capitialistic monarch. Only those I deigned worthy would be on my island. Period. So am I a dictator, socialist or communist? Pick one and stick with it
        You spent 20 years enlisted? Then you didn't work for a "retirement package" you're getting disability, which is a socialist program. Quit trying to sugar coat your stance into something that it isn't. And a person can be a dictator, socialist, and communist all at the same time. Look up the definitions. They aren't mutually exclusive.

        And the part where I said
        Originally posted by racrguy
        So you'd just keep all the "rewards" for yourself? That sounds like what we'd call today a dictatorship.
        was a question, followed by a statement. I will admit that I bent the definition of dictatorship a bit. Here's the definition of the term.

        dic·ta·tor·ship
        noun \dik-ˈtā-tər-ˌship, ˈdik-ˌ\
        Definition of DICTATORSHIP
        1
        : the office of dictator
        2
        : autocratic rule, control, or leadership
        3
        a : a form of government in which absolute power is concentrated in a dictator or a small clique b : a government organization or group in which absolute power is so concentrated c : a despotic state

        the office of dictator; autocratic rule, control, or leadership; a form of government in which absolute power is concentrated in a dictator or a small clique… See the full definition


        You are currently engaged in socialist activities. Were you to have your way, you'd run a Communist government ruled completely by a dictator (you.)

        Keep trying to argue the points when I've already proven you wrong.

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        • #49
          Actually, my paperwork on the wall reads "Certificate of Retirement." Not "Certificate of Disability." You disagree that I'm retired? Take it up with the Department of the Army. I'm being paid for services rendered.

          No, my government wouldn't be a communist government. It'd be a capitalistic monarchy. To make it easier on you to figure this out, picture my government as a business. I own the business but everyone produces according to what they want to earn. You don't have leeches, you don't have welfare, and if they don't produce they're gone. What you're saying is that I believe in a form of government that caters to everyone, is mandatory and forces everyone to participate. Not even close.

          Would you care to see said picture of said Retirement certificate? My purple heart and CIB is completely separate.
          I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
            Actually, my paperwork on the wall reads "Certificate of Retirement." Not "Certificate of Disability." You disagree that I'm retired? Take it up with the Department of the Army. I'm being paid for services rendered.

            No, my government wouldn't be a communist government. It'd be a capitalistic monarchy. To make it easier on you to figure this out, picture my government as a business. I own the business but everyone produces according to what they want to earn. You don't have leeches, you don't have welfare, and if they don't produce they're gone. What you're saying is that I believe in a form of government that caters to everyone, is mandatory and forces everyone to participate. Not even close.

            Would you care to see said picture of said Retirement certificate? My purple heart and CIB is completely separate.
            Does your check come from the VA, or the DOD?

            Reread the definition of communism. Wait, I can't honestly expect you to go back and reread something, I'll just quote the pertinent definition for you.

            totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
            See the bolded part of your quote to draw the line for the definition.

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            • #51
              Once again, you're wrong. I don't own the production, merely the island. Everyone is entitled to the fruits of their labor.

              My check comes from the VA and the Army. So, which one do you think is socialist? Let me know and I'll tell you which one actually gets cashed.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                Once again, you're wrong. I don't own the production, merely the island. Everyone is entitled to the fruits of their labor.

                My check comes from the VA and the Army. So, which one do you think is socialist? Let me know and I'll tell you which one actually gets cashed.
                No, I'm not wrong, you're trying to say you didn't say what you said. That doesn't fly around here.

                So you aren't 100% disabled?

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                • #53
                  Yes, I am 100% disabled. Since you do not know how the disability pay goes with the military, I'm not really inclined to fill you in. I get paid by the Army and the VA. I said exactly what I said I said.

                  And you didn't say a word about my capitalistic monarchy because you can't. There's never been one and aside from me, nor has it been defined but by me.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                    Yes, I am 100% disabled. Since you do not know how the disability pay goes with the military, I'm not really inclined to fill you in. I get paid by the Army and the VA. I said exactly what I said I said.

                    And you didn't say a word about my capitalistic monarchy because you can't. There's never been one and aside from me, nor has it been defined but by me.
                    The reason it hasn't been defined before is because you described communism. I do know how the disability pay goes with the military, you shouldn't assume things. Just because I haven't served doesn't mean I don't have intimate knowledge of how the system works.

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                    • #55
                      Then you should know exactly what I mean when I say I'm paid for service, my paperwork says retirement and your argument holds no water.

                      And no, it's not socialism as I don't distribute anything nor do I hold all wealth. That takes communism out too
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                        Then you should know exactly what I mean when I say I'm paid for service, my paperwork says retirement and your argument holds no water.

                        And no, it's not socialism as I don't distribute anything nor do I hold all wealth. That takes communism out too
                        /facepalm. You're engage in socialist activities and you would run a communist dictatorship. Given the dictionary definitions of the terms, that's what your situation is. No matter how much you try to deny it, or change definitions of words to suit your whim. You are what you are, just as I am what I am. By the way, in order to have a Monarchy, one would have to be of royal blood, and you are far from royal, judging by your current status in life.

                        But wait, you said you were worried about the messicans voting you out, so does that mean it's a republic, a democracy perhaps. Nope, it's communistic based on the majority of the descriptors you gave. Again, your words, not mine. I just properly labeled them for you, since you can't be bothered to use the correct terms for the correct things.

                        The fact that that one can retire due to disability in no way means that one is being paid for service rendered. It means they are paying you due to the fact that, according to the government, you're not competent to work. Whether that be physically or mentally. Therefore you are literally getting paid to do nothing. Getting paid to do nothing would, by definition, be "unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done".
                        Last edited by racrguy; 11-18-2011, 10:35 PM. Reason: redundant statement is redundant.

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                        • #57
                          Just gonna leave this here:










                          "One squirt and you're south of the border!"

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                          • #58
                            I lol'd

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                              /facepalm. You're engage in socialist activities and you would run a communist dictatorship. Given the dictionary definitions of the terms, that's what your situation is. No matter how much you try to deny it, or change definitions of words to suit your whim. You are what you are, just as I am what I am. By the way, in order to have a Monarchy, one would have to be of royal blood, and you are far from royal, judging by your current status in life.

                              But wait, you said you were worried about the messicans voting you out, so does that mean it's a republic, a democracy perhaps. Nope, it's communistic based on the majority of the descriptors you gave. Again, your words, not mine. I just properly labeled them for you, since you can't be bothered to use the correct terms for the correct things.

                              The fact that that one can retire due to disability in no way means that one is being paid for service rendered. It means they are paying you due to the fact that, according to the government, you're not competent to work. Whether that be physically or mentally. Therefore you are literally getting paid to do nothing. Getting paid to do nothing would, by definition, be "unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done".
                              Except for the fact that none of your text book definitions fit anything I was saying. You said that I was a socialist, communist dictator. That means that I A) keep all the resources, B) distribute them equally C) control everything. So do I keep all resources or distribute them all equally?

                              And I can be king without royal blood as that bloodline has to start somewhere. On my island, it'd be me. I'm king, my offspring would be royalty due to being my descendants.
                              I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                              • #60
                                I like this one:

                                I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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