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  • Awesome! Let the IRS do your tax return!

    I'm sure they'll make sure to get you every dollar back that's yours!

    Heavy sarcasm [ ]OFF [X] ON

    The heightened focus in Washington over deficit reduction has stirred up talk about a languishing proposal that would allow the IRS to go ahead and prepare those tax returns for you.

    The idea was pushed earlier this year by a Democratic congressman, who pitched it as a way for some filers to save time and money by letting the IRS do the heavy lifting when it comes to tax-return preparation.

    But Republicans and advocacy groups warn it's a ploy to let the IRS charge filers more money in taxes. Critics of the policy are fairly confident the so-called deficit Super Committee will not ultimately include this proposal in any deficit-reduction plan -- that is, if the committee produces a plan. But they're not convinced the idea is dead, either.

    "I'm sure it's been discussed" on the congressional Super Committee, said Ryan Ellis, tax policy director with the anti-tax-hike Americans for Tax Reform.

    Last March, Rep. Jim Cooper, D-Tenn., introduced a bill that would institute such a program allowing the IRS to "do your paperwork." As Cooper pitched it, individuals who do not itemize would be eligible. Cooper's office estimated that about 40 million Americans could enroll, saving them $2 billion in preparation fees and millions of hours in preparation time.

    Cooper spokesman Stephen George told FoxNews.com the program would be optional. And taxpayers could reserve the right to reject the IRS-prepared tax return and get it done themselves.

    The idea has been touted in the past by Obama administration officials, including President Obama himself. Cooper's proposal, though, hasn't gone far. It attracted zero co-sponsors and hasn't gotten out of committee.

    George also said Cooper has not lobbied for his proposal with members of the Super Committee.

    On the Republican side, Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas, went so far as to introduce a bill over the summer that would explicitly prohibit the Treasury Department from implementing the so-called "return-free" tax system. It has 27 co-sponsors.

    "Allowing the IRS to file your tax return is like asking the fox to guard the hen house," Johnson said at the time.


    Ellis said a key concern is the IRS would probably not flag all the deductions for which a potential taxpayer is eligible.

    "Their mission is to maximize revenue collection for the government," he said. "They're not going to make any positive assumptions on behalf of the taxpayer."


    Ellis said that while the issue may have come up in the Super Committee, Republicans would probably nix it.

    Ed Black, president of the Computer and Communications Industry Association, said he can't assume it's off the table -- though it "should be."

    "It is one of those things, it's like whack-a-mole," Black said, claiming the proposal keeps popping up from time to time.

    Black said the program would probably raise revenue for the government, but only by "cheating" taxpayers.

    Despite the concern, Black said he'd be "surprised" if the Super Committee included the program in its final plan.

    The committee is facing a Nov. 23 deadline to find at least $1.2 trillion in savings over the next decade. Members and party leaders are locked in battle over how to split that savings up between revenue increases and spending cuts.
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1dstpkj9I
    "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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    Fuuuuck all that
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    • #3
      Absolutley the dumbest idea EVER!! Hell, the head of the IRS cant even figure out how to do his taxes and Im supposed to trust his peons to do it right?

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      • #4
        Conceptually it actually makes sense if the return is very very simple. Like if you are filing the 1040 EZ form. There is nothing to it, I can complete one in about thirty seconds. At the end of the day it would save very poor people from paying someone to prepare their return.

        Unfortunately you can't trust any level of the government or the IRS so this should never happen.
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        What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
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        • #5
          I agree, I don't see anything wrong with them preparing something like a 1040EZ. It could pretty easily be automated, and as long as you reserve the right to reject it. I was a tax monkey for a tax season and I charged people 80-120 bucks to fill out their 1040EZ. These people were in and out in less than 10 minutes.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
            Conceptually it actually makes sense if the return is very very simple. Like if you are filing the 1040 EZ form. There is nothing to it, I can complete one in about thirty seconds. At the end of the day it would save very poor people from paying someone to prepare their return.

            Unfortunately you can't trust any level of the government or the IRS so this should never happen.
            That makes we wanna cry...it's so simple...yet they pay someone else to do it...
            "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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            • #7
              Yet another example of the liberal mindset of the government needing to control everything. What's next? Rationing how many sheets of TP we can use per wipe? You know, studies have shown that for every unneeded sheet you use, a penguin dies.
              "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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              • #8
                Fucking penguins.
                Half of history is hiding the past.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                  Unfortunately you can't trust any level of the government...

                  So true. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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                  • #10
                    Stupid idea for many reasons:

                    1) Requires more govt. spending to pay more IRS workers to do this.
                    2) Takes away income from private companies ( the people who used to do this).
                    3) Most likely will lie and cheat people out of money.
                    4) What is next... gives them too much control.

                    Only plus for the gov would be increased revenue from either cheating tax payers or charging that the tax payer really should pay (eliminate tax payer cheating).
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                    • #11
                      Sounds good to me. Where do I sign up?
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                      • #12
                        Father-in-law worked for the IRS for 35 years. It was a common courtesy to help fill out tax forms for someone who brought their info in but was unsure how to do it.
                        He did make the comment that if looked at closely, errors could be found in almost every tax form filed. He said that H&R Block forms contained the most errors he ran across...
                        It wasn't pleasant to be around him during filing time!
                        Natural law. Sons are put on this earth to trouble their fathers.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                          Conceptually it actually makes sense if the return is very very simple. Like if you are filing the 1040 EZ form. There is nothing to it, I can complete one in about thirty seconds. At the end of the day it would save very poor people from paying someone to prepare their return.

                          Unfortunately you can't trust any level of the government or the IRS so this should never happen.
                          There's no reason for the poor to have to pay someone to prepare their returns. Anywhere with a college/university nearby will probably have a VITA program where accounting students will prepare them for free.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Slowhand View Post
                            There's no reason for the poor to have to pay someone to prepare their returns. Anywhere with a college/university nearby will probably have a VITA program where accounting students will prepare them for free.
                            Truff. I remember the accounting teacher asking for volunteers.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                              Conceptually it actually makes sense if the return is very very simple. Like if you are filing the 1040 EZ form. There is nothing to it, I can complete one in about thirty seconds. At the end of the day it would save very poor people from paying someone to prepare their return.

                              Unfortunately you can't trust any level of the government or the IRS so this should never happen.
                              Yep, it said if you itemize, you have to do it yourself. This actually makes a lot of sense. Heck, it would make more sense if the government offered to do it for say $5 or $10. I'm sure there are some lazy people who don't want to fill out an EZ form themselves. Everyone would also have the option to do their own taxes. As long as it only applies to EZ, non itemized returns and remains OPTIONAL, I don't see a problem with this.

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