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    Eighty-three victims and family members in the worst-ever mass shooting at a U.S. military installation are seeking $750 million in compensation from the Army, alleging that wilful negligence enabled psychiatrist Major Nidal Hasan to carry out a terrorist attack at Fort Hood, Texas.

    The administrative claims filed last week said the government had clear warnings that Hasan, who is scheduled to go on trial in March, posed a grave danger to the lives of soldiers and civilians.

    The government bowed to political correctness and not only ignored the threat Hasan presented but actually promoted him to the rank of major five months before the massacre, according to the administrative claims against the Defense Department, the Justice Department and the FBI.

    Thirteen soldiers and civilians were killed and more than two dozen soldiers and civilians were injured in the November 5, 2009 shooting spree.

    Fifty-four relatives of eight of the murdered soldiers have filed claims. One civilian police officer and nine of the injured soldiers have filed claims along with 19 family members of those 10.

    'It was unconscionable that Hasan was allowed to continue in the military and ultimately be in the position to perpetrate the only terror attack committed on U.S. soil since 9/11,' attorney Neal Sher, who represents the claimants, told The Associated Press.

    'We're aware claims have been filed, but we're not going to comment on it,’ Christopher Haug, chief of media relations for the public affairs office at Fort Hood, said Thursday. 'They'll be taken seriously and they'll go through the legal process.'

    Among the claimants is a civilian police officer who shot Hasan, Sergeant Kimberly Munley, who was hit in the leg and hand in an exchange of gunfire that has cut short her law enforcement career.

    She underwent a series of surgeries for her wounds and is on unpaid leave from her post as a civilian police officer with the Army.

    'I brought this claim because I strongly believe this tragedy was totally preventable and that the Army swept under the rug what they knew about Hasan,' Munley said in a statement.

    Munley and her partner, Sergeant Mark Todd, another civilian officer in Fort Hood's police force, are credited with shooting Hasan, ending the violence.

    Hasan, an American-born Muslim, faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.

    U.S. officials have said they believe Hasan's attack was inspired by the radical U.S.-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and that the two men exchanged as many as 20 emails. Al-Awlaki was killed in a U.S. drone strike in Yemen in late September. His name has not yet been mentioned in any hearings in the criminal case against Hasan.

    'It is a tragic irony that our government sought out and killed al-Awlaki, while Hasan was promoted in the Army which enabled him to carry out his murderous terror attack,' said Sher, who for many years ran the Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations that hunted Nazi criminals living illegally in the United States.

    He also is a former executive director of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobbying group.

    Evidence of Hasan's radicalisation to violent Islamist extremism was on full display to his superiors and colleagues during military medical training, according to a Senate report issued in February and included as an exhibit accompanying the claims.

    In the events leading up to the shooting, an instructor and a colleague each referred to Hasan as a 'ticking time bomb,' according to the report by Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and Susan Collins of Maine, the chairman and ranking Republican, respectively, on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

    In classroom presentations, Hasan repeatedly spoke of violent Islamist extremism instead of medical subjects and justified suicide bombings, said the report, which concluded that Hasan's superiors failed to discipline him, refer him to counterintelligence officials or seek to discharge him.
    Family members in the worst-ever mass shooting at a U.S. military installation say the Army was negligent in enabling Major Nidal Hasan, pictured, to carry out terrorist attack.
    Last edited by GhostTX; 11-11-2011, 02:14 PM.
    "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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    I hope they win. Put a blow to to this Politcial Correctness bullshit for a change.

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    • #3
      I hope you dont take this the wrong way...but

      54 people suing on the behalf of 8 dead people?

      I can understand the direct family that was at a loss, but extended family suing is wrong.

      I believe the injured should sue...but their families? 19 other people trying to get money on the behalf the 10 injured?

      People are just greedy

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
        I hope you dont take this the wrong way...but

        54 people suing on the behalf of 8 dead people?

        I can understand the direct family that was at a loss, but extended family suing is wrong.

        I believe the injured should sue...but their families? 19 other people trying to get money on the behalf the 10 injured?

        People are just greedy
        After thinking about this, what about spouses, parents, kids, and siblings of the dead? It's an average of less than 7 per victim. Example: my wife, my 2 parents, my 2 kids, and my 2 sisters?

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        • #5
          Sue the fuck out of them. The fact that civilian police officers had to stop him on an Army base is beyond absurd too.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
            After thinking about this, what about spouses, parents, kids, and siblings of the dead? It's an average of less than 7 per victim. Example: my wife, my 2 parents, my 2 kids, and my 2 sisters?
            What they want is money... the wife/kids would the the beneficiaries of this money.. Getting a bunch of money because someone died does not solve or help anything unless the people were dependent on the money. Its sad that someone had to die, but how will money solve grief or anger? Im all for the settlement for people who depended on that income but honestly money does not solve the emotional stress...

            I believe the wife and children should get money to help them throughout their life to the amount of what the man would have earned until age say 70... other than that...people are just greedy

            Its very sad to say, but if I lost a parent, I cannot put a dollar amount on my emotions. Getting a bunch of money doesnt bring back the person. Our society has gone south with their morals and find financial compensation in excess to make them happy.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
              What they want is money... the wife/kids would the the beneficiaries of this money.. Getting a bunch of money because someone died does not solve or help anything unless the people were dependent on the money. Its sad that someone had to die, but how will money solve grief or anger? Im all for the settlement for people who depended on that income but honestly money does not solve the emotional stress...

              I believe the wife and children should get money to help them throughout their life to the amount of what the man would have earned until age say 70... other than that...people are just greedy

              Its very sad to say, but if I lost a parent, I cannot put a dollar amount on my emotions. Getting a bunch of money doesnt bring back the person. Our society has gone south with their morals and find financial compensation in excess to make them happy.
              Money is all they can get. I have no problem with it. The military was negligent in letting that crazy muslim bastard stay active. They should pay. Maybe it will make them look at things a little differently next time.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
                What they want is money... the wife/kids would the the beneficiaries of this money.. Getting a bunch of money because someone died does not solve or help anything unless the people were dependent on the money. Its sad that someone had to die, but how will money solve grief or anger? Im all for the settlement for people who depended on that income but honestly money does not solve the emotional stress...

                I believe the wife and children should get money to help them throughout their life to the amount of what the man would have earned until age say 70... other than that...people are just greedy

                Its very sad to say, but if I lost a parent, I cannot put a dollar amount on my emotions. Getting a bunch of money doesnt bring back the person. Our society has gone south with their morals and find financial compensation in excess to make them happy.
                For some reason a post like this makes me think you work in the insurance industry, am I correct?

                Stevo
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stevo View Post
                  For some reason a post like this makes me think you work in the insurance industry, am I correct?

                  Stevo
                  nope..healthcare

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
                    Money is all they can get. I have no problem with it. The military was negligent in letting that crazy muslim bastard stay active. They should pay. Maybe it will make them look at things a little differently next time.
                    Hitting them In the pocket book is the only way you can get a change. More power to them. Its not always about the money, but sadly thats the only way to get satisfaction. Me I would hit them hard and give the money to things, groups of things that would make the person happy.

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                    • #11
                      I always thought it was insane that soldiers are not allowed to carry loaded weapons on post.

                      I had a CHL in Virginia but I had to check my weapon at the armory when I was living at the barracks. I might as well as not bothered with the CHL until I moved off post because the 1st Sgt wanted to know your reason for checking out your personally owned weapon from the armory. Just because, wasn't good enough. Of course me and the other fellas just said that we were going to the shooting range (even if we weren't).

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                      • #12
                        I hope they win, everyone who turned a blind eye is sued individually and pc is outlawed in the military
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                        • #13
                          I personally can't understand how we can be trusted at war with our weapons but cannot be trusted on base with them. We are expected to let contracted civilians at my base protect us. If we had an active shooter I think many would be killed. Just another example of gun free zones getting people killed. They are lucky that hero cop came in and put him down.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                            Sue the fuck out of them. The fact that civilian police officers had to stop him on an Army base is beyond absurd too.
                            Yeah I would have thought that he would have had an MP5 shoved up his ass as soon as he too the first shot.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by StanleyJustinTaliwhacker95 View Post
                              Yeah I would have thought that he would have had an MP5 shoved up his ass as soon as he too the first shot.
                              It just goes on and on and on....

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