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  • #31
    Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
    Atheists just have an easier route to becoming "evil".
    Statistically speaking, theists have an easier route to becoming evil. Do a little research before you talk about something you don't know anything about.


    Back on topic. I haven't read the article yet, but just skimming, it seems like there's some bullshit in there that I must take a shovel to in order to get to the real information. le sigh.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by line-em-up View Post
      Only I know what I am capable of.
      Make my point for me.
      ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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      • #33
        Originally posted by racrguy View Post
        Statistically speaking, theists have an easier route to becoming evil. Do a little research before you talk about something you don't know anything about.


        Back on topic. I haven't read the article yet, but just skimming, it seems like there's some bullshit in there that I must take a shovel to in order to get to the real information. le sigh.
        I tried to google a list of evil people, but couldn't yeild any atheists/theists results.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Yale View Post
          Make my point for me.
          But that's beside the point.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Denny View Post
            I tried to google a list of evil people, but couldn't yeild any atheists/theists results.
            It's simple. Google for religious statistics of inmates.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by racrguy View Post
              It's simple. Google for religious statistics of inmates.
              big difference of weak people with drug problems and soros dont ya think? maybe if you used extremly violent crimes only in the statistics..
              ازدهار رأسه برعشيت

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              • #37
                Pre/post crimes?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                  Atheists just have an easier route to becoming "evil".
                  You are mistaken because your world view doesn't permit you to think in the terms needed to understand a man like Soros.

                  When you are an atheists there is no such thing as "Evil" anymore then there is a god. Your values are what ever you believe them to be.

                  Soros needs a bullet in the head ASAP. I have always been surprised that the brits did not kill him in the 90's after what he did to them.
                  Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                    It's simple. Google for religious statistics of inmates.

                    Completely irrelevant data. Most prisoners are in prison for crimes where they are the both the actor of the crime as well as the victim of the same crime. Until we stop locking people up for prohibition type crimes this will continue to be the case. Breaking a prohibition type law doesn't make you into an evil person; deliberately causing harm to another person does.

                    I would also like to point out the very few Muslims go into US prisons but many become Muslims while in prison.
                    Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by jnobles06 View Post
                      my view is that he is not evil at all.



                      he only needs the money to be able to accomplish his real agenda which is to get the world (mainly the usa, we use a large amount of the worlds energy (25%), but are only a small part of the population (5%)) to stop wasting the finite resources we have. its like a necessary evil. it seems to me he wants to live in a society that is more similar to the one depicted in aldous huxley's "brave new world", without all the cloning. which ultimately would help extend the time of the human race on the planet because it would cut down on our wastefulness.

                      i have no doubts about him being a sociopath. you have to be a sociopath to amass that type of wealth, but you need that type of wealth to be able to change things on a massive scale. it is a sad fact, but it is true in the society we have created.
                      It is not his place to decided or choose how societies operates, by him doing so against their will he has become an oppressor.

                      Stevo
                      Originally posted by SSMAN
                      ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                      • #41
                        Exactly how has he become an oppressor? I don't know much about the guy but I'm having a real hard time figuring out how he exerts any more influence than anyone else. Several billion dollars sounds like a lot of money but when it comes to the grand scheme of things it is just a drop in the bucket.

                        All this bullshit sounds like someone is trying to paint him up as a modern day Jay Gould. At least you could make the case that Gould was a stock manipulator and a liar.
                        Originally posted by racrguy
                        What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                        Originally posted by racrguy
                        Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                          Statistically speaking, theists have an easier route to becoming evil. Do a little research before you talk about something you don't know anything about.
                          Seriously? "Statistically speaking"? Besides the fact that, that mere statement practically disqualifies itself, I wouldn't expect you to understand a concept so simple. Its really easy: Do you think you'll be punished after you die if you're an evil prick in life?

                          Typical atheist: No absolutely not. When you die, you're just dead so no.

                          Typical theist: Yes absolutely so. You'll be made to pay for the evils you commit.

                          Now tell me which one of those has an easier road to take psychologically, to being what we would call "evil". You remind me of those socialists who just can't grasp why you can't steal money from people who earned it and give it away and still have an economy that doesn't collapse. Its like so far beyond simple that I can only assume that they're willingly lying to themselves.

                          Originally posted by svo855 View Post
                          When you are an atheist there is no such thing as "Evil" anymore then there is a god. Your values are what ever you believe them to be.
                          This. If there is no such thing as evil, then you really can't commit an "evil" act on another human being can you? You can only commit an "act". If you give an orphan some money, eh just an act you're capable of doing. If you shoot an orphan in the head, meh same thing just another act.
                          Last edited by SMEGMA STENCH; 10-24-2011, 09:51 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                            Seriously? "Statistically speaking"? Besides the fact that, that mere statement practically disqualifies itself, I wouldn't expect you to understand a concept so simple. Its really easy: Do you think you'll be punished after you die if you're an evil prick in life?

                            Typical atheist: No absolutely not. When you die, you're just dead so no.

                            Typical theist: Yes absolutely so. You'll be made to pay for the evils you commit.

                            Now tell me which one of those has an easier road to take psychologically, to being what we would call "evil". You remind me of those socialists who just can't grasp why you can't steal money from people who earned it and give it away and still have an economy that doesn't collapse. Its like so far beyond simple that I can only assume that they're willingly lying to themselves.



                            This. If there is no such thing as evil, then you really can't commit an "evil" act on another human being can you? You can only commit an "act". If you give an orphan some money, eh just an act you're capable of doing. If you shoot an orphan in the head, meh same thing just another act.
                            Yet again you've got no clue what you're talking about. Just because someone doesn't believe in god it doesn't remove either good or evil acts. I'll beat you about the head and neck with numbers when I get off work. Googling and disseminating information isn't exactly what I'd call easy on a phone.

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                            • #44
                              I wish my world was as simple as Stanley's.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by svo855 View Post
                                Completely irrelevant data. Most prisoners are in prison for crimes where they are the both the actor of the crime as well as the victim of the same crime. Until we stop locking people up for prohibition type crimes this will continue to be the case. Breaking a prohibition type law doesn't make you into an evil person; deliberately causing harm to another person does.

                                I would also like to point out the very few Muslims go into US prisons but many become Muslims while in prison.
                                It's not irrelevant data when you know how to interpret it, it also won't be exact, but I'll make my point later today in the same post to ST.

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