The next time someone tells you Bush caused the Iraqi war...

[stevo]

Show them this video. Yes it is old, yes it is a repost, but it shows the democrats that lay blame on Bush actually supporting the war, some even before Bush took office. I find it shuts them up with a quickness.



Stevo

[Forever_frost]

No it doesn't. They either ignore it completely or attack me as a person

[jnobles06]

No it doesn't. They either ignore it completely or attack me as a person

it's pretty shitty how that works. human nature at it's finest. just like in the protagoras dialouge when socrates lays the smack down on protagoras. lol

[Captain Crawfish]

does it really matter? we went to war end of story. wtf is placing blame going to do? nothing. this is exactly why nothing ever gets done. this country needs leadership not a bunch of people sitting around trying to decide who's fault it is.

[stevo]

does it really matter? we went to war end of story. wtf is placing blame going to do? nothing. this is exactly why nothing ever gets done. this country needs leadership not a bunch of people sitting around trying to decide who's fault it is.

Yeah, it really DOES matter. There is a whole generation of people that parrot the same old tired 'blame Bush' shit, stating shit about a war that they actually know nothing about.

If you mention Desert Shield, they think it is something in a fucking video game, these are the idiots that are voting and persuading others to vote like them.

Giving out facts isn't laying blame, and you thinking that is a testament to the attitude of many of the current young generation.

Stevo

[Forever_frost]

Hell, most people don't know the difference between OIF and OEF

[Captain Crawfish]

Yeah, it really DOES matter. There is a whole generation of people that parrot the same old tired 'blame Bush' shit, stating shit about a war that they actually know nothing about.

If you mention Desert Shield, they think it is something in a fucking video game, these are the idiots that are voting and persuading others to vote like them.

Giving out facts isn't laying blame, and you thinking that is a testament to the attitude of many of the current young generation.

Stevo

i wouldnt waste too much time on trying to persuade them. people are gonna believe what they want to. done deal lets move on to the next war

[Hobie]

Left and Right flip-flop and say/do the same shit, the only division between left and right is the division we draw among ourselves as small people so we can cheerleard for "our" side.

[stevo]

i wouldnt waste too much time on trying to persuade them. people are gonna believe what they want to. done deal lets move on to the next war

Left and Right flip-flop and say/do the same shit, the only division between left and right is the division we draw among ourselves as small people so we can cheerleard for "our" side.

Yeah, lets just lay down, shut up and stop caring/voting.

Stevo

[Hobie]

Yeah, lets just lay down, shut up and stop caring/voting.

Stevo

Status quo and apathy aren't your only two choices.

[jnobles06]

Status quo and apathy aren't your only two choices.

people are too scared to talk about the 3rd. when the citizens fear the govt something is seriously wrong imo. it should be the other way around.

[stevo]

Status quo and apathy aren't your only two choices.

So, what have you done lately, other than discuss it?

Stevo

[Denny]

So, what's the issue? He did have chemical weapons and he was trying to get into the nuclear weapon game.

[exlude]

So, what have you done lately, other than discuss it?

Stevo

Vote 3rd party