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    A secret panel of mid-level national security officials has been established that can put American citizens on a “kill or capture” list that is ultimately sent to the White House for final approval.

    The panel’s recommendations first go through a group of National Security Council “principals” – meaning Cabinet secretaries and intelligence chiefs – for approval before reaching the president’s desk, according to a report today by Reuter’s.

    Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born militant killed by a U.S. drone strike in Yemen last month, was approved for killing in this way, though the role of the president in ordering or ratifying a decision to target a citizen is vague, the report said. Reuters said White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined to discuss anything about the process.

    There is no public record of the panel’s workings and no law actually establishing it or spelling out its functions.

    Though al-Awlaki’s death was widely hailed as another example of the U.S.’s determination and ability to find and kill militant leaders, it has also drawn the ire and concern of civil libertarians who believe the government has no business acting as judge, jury and executioner of an American citizen without due process.

    Even conservatives have hit Obama for hypocrisy, recalling that he criticized his predecessor, George W. Bush, over the use of torture to interrogate terror suspects. As in the case of the last administration, the Obama administration replied consulted with Justice Department attorneys before ordering the attack on al-Awlaki, Reuters reported.

    Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who is a candidate for president, was quick to criticized Obama for the al-Awlaki assassination and said in a National Press Club talk that if American citizens did not protest at such killings it’s possible that even reporters could end up on a hit list.

    “Can you imagine being put on a list because you're a threat? What's going to happen when they come to the media? What if the media becomes a threat?” he said in remarks reported by the Associated Press. “This is the way this works. It's incrementalism." Paul said.

    "It's slipping and sliding, let me tell you,” he said.
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    Which has probably existed since the early 1900's

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    • #3
      If they are up to no good , get rid of them. I don't think you end up on the kill list by accident or for no reason.

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      • #4
        It's a good thing our government can be trusted to never make a mistake.

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        • #5
          You are fucking terrible about copying/pasting articles and not giving a link. For fuck's sake, post the goddamn links.
          Originally posted by BradM
          But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
          Originally posted by Leah
          In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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          • #6
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            Hmm thought I did. Sorry about that.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shaggin Wagon View Post
              If they are up to no good , get rid of them. I don't think you end up on the kill list by accident or for no reason.
              Unfortunately, we have this thing called the Constitution that guarantees due process and a right to face your accuser before you're executed.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                Unfortunately, we have this thing called the Constitution that guarantees due process and a right to face your accuser before you're executed.
                Yeah I understand that, but when Someone is trying to kill us or harm us, I'm not looking to give them anything than death. I'm not into politics, so don't expect a educated argument from me, but you live by the gun, you die by it. I won't ever end up on that list cause I don't do shit to get on it. I more than likely won't get my house shot up by drug dealers, cause I don't mess around with the drug game. I won't die from dehydration in the desert, cause I don't get my self into situations that could end me there.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shaggin Wagon View Post
                  Yeah I understand that, but when Someone is trying to kill us or harm us, I'm not looking to give them anything than death. I'm not into politics, so don't expect a educated argument from me, but you live by the gun, you die by it. I won't ever end up on that list cause I don't do shit to get on it. I more than likely won't get my house shot up by drug dealers, cause I don't mess around with the drug game. I won't die from dehydration in the desert, cause I don't get my self into situations that could end me there.
                  what happens when the government starts doing things you don't like, you protest, and then because you protest, you get put on the kill list (which isn't even constitutionally lawful), with no right to trial just because it is easier to kill you than to deal with you in court where you might expose the government's follies?

                  unconstitutional bureaucracies, corporations, and lazy citizens are why this country is f'd

                  Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post

                  “Can you imagine being put on a list because you're a threat? What's going to happen when they come to the media? What if the media becomes a threat?” he said in remarks reported by the Associated Press. “This is the way this works. It's incrementalism." Paul said.


                  this captures it perfectly. its just baby steps till they can get what they want.

                  Example
                  if you want to take our guns away you can't just make them illegal or we'd throw a fit. so the government just makes them harder to get over time until finally, we are so used to not having them; then no one cares if they are illegal and then the govt will have less resistance in passing a law.

                  you see most people have the mentality to play checkers, but when it comes to chess they are horible. the govt plays chess, while most citizens are only intelligent enough to play checkers.
                  Last edited by jnobles06; 10-19-2011, 10:04 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shaggin Wagon View Post
                    Yeah I understand that, but when Someone is trying to kill us or harm us, I'm not looking to give them anything than death. I'm not into politics, so don't expect a educated argument from me, but you live by the gun, you die by it. I won't ever end up on that list cause I don't do shit to get on it. I more than likely won't get my house shot up by drug dealers, cause I don't mess around with the drug game. I won't die from dehydration in the desert, cause I don't get my self into situations that could end me there.
                    Ever disagree with the government? Sedition. Treason.

                    See how easy that works? Now you're on the list and we never see you again. The Constitution is there for a reason. And it protects you even if you were actively trying to do something massively illegal.

                    Do you think only people who deal in drugs get shot up by drug dealers? Would you like links to innocents getting mowed down?
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                    • #11
                      It's easy, stay the fuck out of Yemen...

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                      • #12
                        Well guys, the government doesnt really bother me. I have a pretty good life myself. I don't feel opressed by the government. I figure on our worst day, this still the best country in the world. Maybe I have a good life because of government watchdogs, but I dont know. I'm not really try to fight the man either. I guess I'm a good peon. I go to work, make some money, enjoy my family and friends, drink my beer, and I'm content with that. I'm a checkers player fo sho in that case....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Shaggin Wagon View Post
                          If they are up to no good , get rid of them. I don't think you end up on the kill list by accident or for no reason.
                          Yeah, that no fly list has just worked out perfectly.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by exlude View Post
                            Yeah, that no fly list has just worked out perfectly.
                            LoL

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                            • #15
                              I agree with FF on principle.

                              I've just assumed that in one form or another these things existed anyway. Public knowledge or not.
                              Originally posted by MR EDD
                              U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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