I don't like Romney.

[Denny]

I think the fed should be transparent, but I'd also like to hear arguments against it. There could be a strategic reason for it not to be, I don't know, but I could theorize. I haven't seen him flip out. Also, keep in mind, you see it as him being in bed with the fed. It could also be that he knows it better than anyone, and has his own answers.

Well, so far, all his answers have been were to basically leave the Fed alone. I'm not shitting you, as I'm looking into everyone as much as possible (except for Romney and Bauchmann because I have completely written them off).

Just listen to his response on that vid on the first page of this thread for a bit of his demeanor. There are several other times where you can see a condescending twist to his direct responses to other people throughout this campaign, mainly coming after anyone questions his stances.

[cobrajet69]

It is ok to disagree on issues and candidates.... but to claim people like him because of "white guilt" is assinine. That is just as ignorant as people saying you were racist if you did not vote for Obama.

And just as ignorant as placing Ron Paul on the top of one's VOTE list just because of his outstanding constitutional views, and totally disregarding his idiotic views/opinions in other areas, e.g. foreign policy (letting the world go down the shitter and "hope it doesn't affect us at home"), cutting defense spending to a point of placing us in a position of vulnerability, etc...

I fear that those who've put Paul on top of their list just hasn't done enough listening or research into the man in order to warrant such praise. He's a good man with good conservative ideals, but is so far off base on other issues that he's got no business running for POTUS.

My thoughts on the others:
Cain - I like him but is lacking in politics skills, and yes, if you want to play the political "game", you must be a "player". I have no economics background and can't argue is 999 plan but if everyone else seems to bash it, I have to question it's validity. I also believe Cain's tied to closely with the Fed, in order to do what's right concerning them.

Romney - I really like his persona and how he handles himself under pressure. I think he's a good guy who wants what's best for our country, but think he's too weak on having a solid plan. He's been back & forth on too many issues and leads me to think he's just too much of a politician and is going to say what needs to be said in order to get elected.

Newt - I really like Newt, and have for many years now. He's a great speaker and moderator, has all the battle scars needed to be "eligible" to fight the fight, but I just don't know if he has the charisma to pull both parties together enough in order to get anything done. Too many Dem's just don't like Newt and will refuse to work with him.

Perry - I've admired Perry as Gov for many years now, but he's been out of the spotlight for a long time (hasn't needed to be - out in the public eye) and now that I see him, in public, debating etc... I see that he's not a good speaker, is too stiff and rigid when on stage, and is petty in the battles he picks against Romney. He's a good conservative but I don't think he's got the people skills to bring the two parties together enough to get things done - in other words... he's too arrogant and hard headed!

None of other candidates warrant my thoughts, IMO.

Now Denny, I've got lots of respect for you brother, but you are way off base on Israel. Yes, they are very strong, powerful and a resilient people, but the day we cut our [direct] support for them, will be the day WWIII starts. Israel is the most westernized country in that region and the most trustworthy we have. The Saudis are not to be trusted (as far as US best interest` are concerned) and cannot be trusted to back the best interest of Israel if/when the shit hits the fan. No other nation in that region has the ability, or want, to intervene if Iran were to attack Israel, and we all know where that leads.


David

[jw33]

My question would be at what point do we, at the very least, reconsider our foreign policy?

Ron Paul's stance on our foreign policy is based on the recommendation of some fairly bright experienced people.

[cobrajet69]

My question would be at what point do we, at the very least, reconsider our foreign policy?

Ron Paul's stance on our foreign policy is based on the recommendation of some fairly bright experienced people.

My opinion is it should have been done a long time ago.

Biggest problem though, is that there are way too many views on what we should do or not do and nobody has been able reconcile between them.



David

[Denny]

Davey, WWIII has been underway for years now. Where have you been?

My point is, Israel will probably jump the situation and go on the offensive in a proactive way. I think their initial stike will get everyone either on their heels, devistate them or leave them in shock. I'm just about the biggest Israel homer there is (no homo), but I'm not a Zionist.

[Snatch Napkin]

It is ok to disagree on issues and candidates.... but to claim people like him because of "white guilt" is assinine. That is just as ignorant as people saying you were racist if you did not vote for Obama.

You, may not have the white guilt going for you, but there are countless others who voted for Obama simply because of white guilt. I have met several, personally.

Guess who they are wanting to vote for now? They don't want Romney because he is a white version of Obama, but they really feel Cain will do better because of what he says. In their argument for voting for Cain, they always mention that we, as a nation, need to embrace all walks of life with respect. We should have more ethnic people helping to balance our ideals. The very same argument they used to try and get me to vote for Obama.

I use the term "white guilt" from experience.

[mustangguy289]

You, may not have the white guilt going for you, but there are countless others who voted for Obama simply because of white guilt. I have met several, personally.

Guess who they are wanting to vote for now? They don't want Romney because he is a white version of Obama, but they really feel Cain will do better because of what he says. In their argument for voting for Cain, they always mention that we, as a nation, need to embrace all walks of life with respect. We should have more ethnic people helping to balance our ideals. The very same argument they used to try and get me to vote for Obama.

I use the term "white guilt" from experience.

I guess I have not met or heard from any of them.

[Baba Ganoush]

I can't stand the Romney/Perry show. They're both dirtbags. Cain is outta his mind. Newt has a chance, hell I thought he should've run in '08. Ron Paul seems to be the fixer, but many dislike his isolationism. In reality, our enemies are already here, and the most important issues are right here in our backyards. These problems pose a much grater threat to our way of life. I'm not worried about Iran or other distant, paper tigers. You can rest assured, Israel isn't the least bit afraid either.

Ron Paul seems to be our best chance to right the ship. Our course for now, is doomed.

[Denny]

[CJ]

Well, seems like Newt is taking the lead. I think he might be my guy.

[Vertnut]

Well, seems like Newt is taking the lead. I think he might be my guy.

Smartest guy in the room, and proved it again the other night. He's been there and done that (in the Reagan administration) and would destroy Obama in any debate.

[CJ]

Smartest guy in the room, and proved it again the other night. He's been there and done that (in the Reagan administration) and would destroy Obama in any debate.

yes, that is the primary reason I would vote for him. He would embarrass Obama on a biblical level.

[Machx2]

The more these debates keep going, the more I find myself liking Newt. He knows what he wants to do and most of his ideas aren't half bad.

[CJ]

The more these debates keep going, the more I find myself liking Newt. He knows what he wants to do and most of his ideas aren't half bad.

After his Contract with America in the mid 90's he's proven he can get shit done even when the senate and president detest it.

[Baba Ganoush]

Smartest guy in the room, and proved it again the other night. He's been there and done that (in the Reagan administration) and would destroy Obama in any debate.

I have to agree. He's hated by his own party, though.