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  • I don't like Romney.

    I never really care much for the guy over the years I've been following him. And his record obviously has some questions... especially on healthcare and gun control. But that is not the main reason I'm getting sick of him. In the last 4 debates he's been a bickering little bitch that has the sole intention of talking over people, and shutting down criticism. I just don't like it.

    So, that leaves me with a decision on who I'd like to support.

    Herman Cain - I like the guy. I've liked him since he stuck it to Clinton in that town hall meeting. I trust that he will do the right thing, however I know that his lack of experience will cause him to lean heavily on advisers. And I don't get to vote for them. And that, I don't like.

    Rick Perry - He's rock solid on the 2nd amendment, he's a conservative, and I do completely trust he will do what he perceives is right. He is weak on illegal immigration, but I feel that of all the candidates, he would work hardest to fix the issue with his experience. Perry is solid as far as I'm concerned, and I trust him to do what he says.

    Newt Gingrich - I feel Newt is by far the most experienced of all the candidates, and he would eat Obama for breakfast. It's quite tempting to vote for him just to see this happen, as it would be all that I've ever wanted to see. However, everyone always talks about his 'baggage' which I presume is the fact he divorced his wife when the media said she was on her death bed (she's fine), and when he shut down the house (which was just threatened by Boehner a few months ago). That doesn't seem like too much, and boy he's a slick talker. However, he has had a few dumbass moves I can recall recently, and I'm a little concerned about his republican cronism, but overall I know he's the most capable of getting done what he says he will. He knows the political engine better than anyone.

    Ron Paul - Quite possibly the best voice on domestic fiscal and constitutional issues. I like the guy, and I know he's damn set on shrinking government. I would vote for him in a heartbeat if it wasn't for his damn foreign policy. It's abysmal, it always has been. His message is so perfect for conservatives, it's just a damn shame it comes with that abysmal foreign policy. Because of that he's unelectable. This is his 3rd attempt, and he's failed every time because of that one issue. He would be a shoe in if it were not for that.

    Rick Santorum - Great conservative. I think he's probably the only real true conservative up there. The problem is money and his personality. He isn't spectacular or extraordinary, his voice falls to the back. I'd vote for him if he had a chance.

    So, what do you guys think? Seems as if our time to choose is quickly evaporating, but the candidates are not thinning out.
    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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    Since this will be the first time I actually vote CJ, I was mentioning it to you yesterday, I am deciding between Rick Perry, and Ron Paul. Rick Perry is more where I am leaning at, but Ron Paul is the one with the economical fix plan. Who cares if he cuts ALL foreign aid?
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    • #3
      I'm in the same boat. The good thing is that ALL of those guys are far better than what we now have. I'm going to let the smoke clear, and vote for whoever's still standing. Whoever is left will be well vetted and scrutinized beyond belief.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mr_Fiux View Post
        Since this will be the first time I actually vote CJ, I was mentioning it to you yesterday, I am deciding between Rick Perry, and Ron Paul. Rick Perry is more where I am leaning at, but Ron Paul is the one with the economical fix plan. Who cares if he cuts ALL foreign aid?
        He is unelectable, it doesn't even matter. Foreign aid has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. That is not the concern. Most all conservatives support cutting foreign aid.
        "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
        "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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        • #5
          I would vote in this order:

          Cain
          Gingrich
          Paul
          Santorum
          Romney
          Perry

          I will probably be accused of having "white guilt" for my choice but so be it. The people throwing that out are just as bad as the people who were calling everyone a racist that didn't vote for Obama.

          When it gets down to whoever vs Obama.. I will vote for "whoever".

          I just hope some idiot that has a big following doesn't come as an independent and do a Ross Perot all over again and hand the presidency to Obama.
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          • #6
            By the time the primaries get to Texas they are pretty much picked.
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            • #7
              I liked Newt and his "I'm a statesman so I'm not going to bicker and we shouldn't be fighting each other, we should be united against Obama" theme. But I also like Cain. A Cain/Newt ticket or vice versa would be ideal
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                I liked Newt and his "I'm a statesman so I'm not going to bicker and we shouldn't be fighting each other, we should be united against Obama" theme. But I also like Cain. A Cain/Newt ticket or vice versa would be ideal
                I agree.

                Romney and Perry are just more of the same career politicians. The fact that they have switched parties in the past shows me they will go whichever route is better for them (or their wallet).
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
                  I agree.

                  Romney and Perry are just more of the same career politicians. The fact that they have switched parties in the past shows me they will go whichever route is better for them (or their wallet).
                  Perry was a conservative democrat. They use to have those. Any one of them were more conservative than our current republicans. I respect him for switching parties, he did what he felt was right - that isn't exactly an easy switch to make, by the way. I like he admitted the gardisil mandate was a mistake.

                  Romney on the other hand denies he ever made a mistake, and then he says he stands by what he did, but won't allow anyone to criticize him on it. He is exactly the politician you seem to describe.
                  "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                  "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
                    Perry was a conservative democrat. They use to have those. Any one of them were more conservative than our current republicans. I respect him for switching parties, he did what he felt was right - that isn't exactly an easy switch to make, by the way. I like he admitted the gardisil mandate was a mistake.

                    Romney on the other hand denies he ever made a mistake, and then he says he stands by what he did, but won't allow anyone to criticize him on it. He is exactly the politician you seem to describe.
                    All this. I find it hilarious that he denies evermaking a statement when there is video evidence of him making the statement.

                    He's the EXACT same thing we have in office now, just a slightly redder shade of blue.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
                      Perry was a conservative democrat. They use to have those. Any one of them were more conservative than our current republicans. I respect him for switching parties, he did what he felt was right - that isn't exactly an easy switch to make, by the way. I like he admitted the gardisil mandate was a mistake.

                      Romney on the other hand denies he ever made a mistake, and then he says he stands by what he did, but won't allow anyone to criticize him on it. He is exactly the politician you seem to describe.
                      They are both at the bottom of my list. lol
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
                        Cain
                        Gingrich
                        Paul
                        Santorum
                        Romney
                        Perry
                        I like that list but would switch Romney to last. He is a full on lib IMO. How he can even be a part of the GOP debates is amazing to me. I am not concerned about race. People that voted for the anointed one just because he is 50% black are 100% stupid.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
                          They are both at the bottom of my list. lol
                          But why exactly is Perry down there?
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                          • #14
                            First rule of the Cult of Ron: nobody talks ill of Surpreme Leader Paul.
                            How do we forget ourselves? How do we forget our minds?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                              He's the EXACT same thing we have in office now, just a slightly redder shade of blue.
                              Yup. He's too RINO for me.
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