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  • #61
    Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
    Again...some people fuck it up for everyone. You think that PCP and cocaine should be legal? It is the same argument. You favor individual liberties that allow people to make their own decisions. I believe that there are lots of people in this country that will not do the drugs responsibly and can hurt others. This is why drugs are illegal.
    I'm all for legalizing it all. Have the gov regulate and tax it all, similar to alcohol or methadone and everything in between, accordingly; Prostitution too. For your more serious pcp, coke and the like, designate an area for all the crack heads and whores, similar to amsterdam and let them all kill themselves there, away from people who just want to live a normal life further away from the worry that some tweaker is gonna knock in their door and steal a damn vhs player (yes, this recently happened).

    FYI, there are already people doing drugs irrresponsibly and hurting others. They are much more difficult to control, cloaked in the darkness, created by the failed "war on drugs".

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    • #62
      Obama vowed to let them be, what a douchebag.

      And I love people trying to argue how pot should not be legalized, using the same logic alcohol & prescription meds should be illegal too.

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      • #63
        I agree with you Forrest, marijuana shouldn't be lumped in with many other "illegal" drugs.

        Originally posted by Cooter View Post
        just like them crazy nigra jazz musicians and their devil weed!!!
        Them and those dang mexican migrant workers.
        [1900's voice] If only we could prohibit use of that stuff they're smoking, people would eventually think it was for their safety instead of racially motivated [1900's voice].

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        • #64
          do some research and you'll find out a whole different story as to why it is illegal . has nothing to do with getting high. it was all about Hemp production.
          it is one of the top yearly crops with a diverse use. needs no weed control or pesticides . longest and strongest fibers known. if you read up on it you will be disgusted that something could be manipulated like this. good old boys gone wild .

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          • #65
            Disclaimer: I don't smoke pot and never will.

            I tend to take a libertarian approach as i get older, and I see this as just another federal power grab, mixed in with prohibition era thinking/fears of tax revenue loss by the politicians. Big pharma probably has a hand in this also - they would surely prefer to sell expensive prescription drugs rather than have a cheaper remedy available, and i know that they have a bunch of politicians already bought and paid for.

            Either pot or alcohol, when taken to extremes, can be dangerous but when used responsibly generally do not cause issues.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by mikeb View Post
              Disclaimer: I don't smoke pot and never will.

              I tend to take a libertarian approach as i get older, and I see this as just another federal power grab, mixed in with prohibition era thinking/fears of tax revenue loss by the politicians. Big pharma probably has a hand in this also - they would surely prefer to sell expensive prescription drugs rather than have a cheaper remedy available, and i know that they have a bunch of politicians already bought and paid for.

              Either pot or alcohol, when taken to extremes, can be dangerous but when used responsibly generally do not cause issues.
              I agree with 99.9% of this!!!!! except the bold text. Hell naw foo! Weed ain't neva been dangerous!
              Ded

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                No, it's not illegal as the federal government has no power to make it illegal. Can they use police to try to force their illegal ideals on you? Of course. The government has a monopoly on force.
                Hello McFly. The first three Articles of the Constitution establish a federal Legislative, Judicial, and EXECUTIVE branch.

                It's not a power grab. The legislature created the law, the judiciary upheld the law, and now the executive agencies are enforcing the law.

                Please explain your stance further.
                When the government pays, the government controls.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
                  Hello McFly. The first three Articles of the Constitution establish a federal Legislative, Judicial, and EXECUTIVE branch.

                  It's not a power grab. The legislature created the law, the judiciary upheld the law, and now the executive agencies are enforcing the law.

                  Please explain your stance further.
                  The Constitution never gave them the power to create this law (or regulate this type of item), and therefore that power was reserved to the states or to the people. They can make whatever law they want, (clearly), but it doesn't mean they had the constitutional power to do so.

                  Pretty sure Frost is thinking along these lines too.

                  I'm sure there is some sort of creative interpretation of some part of the Constitution that they feel allows them to do it, but I don't think I would agree with it. As an example, I would also say the Federal government was not given the power to regulate any sort of weapon ownership (unless there was an interstate transaction I guess), so obviously my stance on the Constitution is very strict and might not be widely accepted. (State regulation is another story, so don't think I'm advocating no regulation whatsoever)
                  Last edited by slow06; 10-07-2011, 11:00 AM.
                  "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."
                  -Gerald Ford/Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by mikeb View Post
                    Disclaimer: I don't smoke pot and never will.

                    I tend to take a libertarian approach as i get older, and I see this as just another federal power grab, mixed in with prohibition era thinking/fears of tax revenue loss by the politicians. Big pharma probably has a hand in this also - they would surely prefer to sell expensive prescription drugs rather than have a cheaper remedy available, and i know that they have a bunch of politicians already bought and paid for.

                    Either pot or alcohol, when taken to extremes, can be dangerous but when used responsibly generally do not cause issues.
                    If people are using it for pain... hydrocodone is available at any pharmacy as a generic for $4... I really dont think pharmaceutical companies have that much in stopping marijuana. It has 2 main uses which is pain and hunger drive. All those pothead will try and convince people it works better and has more uses... here is examples from an awesome list from www.letfreedomgrow.com
                    which supports legalization:

                    Autism
                    Anxiety
                    Aversive memories
                    Every cancer immaginable
                    Hepatitis
                    Sleep apnea
                    Pancreatitis

                    Are you kidding me?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by vadertt View Post
                      I agree with 99.9% of this!!!!! except the bold text. Hell naw foo! Weed ain't neva been dangerous!
                      true story

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
                        If people are using it for pain... hydrocodone is available at any pharmacy as a generic for $4... I really dont think pharmaceutical companies have that much in stopping marijuana. It has 2 main uses which is pain and hunger drive. All those pothead will try and convince people it works better and has more uses... here is examples from an awesome list from www.letfreedomgrow.com
                        which supports legalization:

                        Autism
                        Anxiety
                        Aversive memories
                        Every cancer immaginable
                        Hepatitis
                        Sleep apnea
                        Pancreatitis

                        Are you kidding me?
                        Sure, hydrocode is an option, but it has possible side effects, and might not provide a similar relief for the cancer patients as they get from MJ. I haven't walked a mile in their shoes, so i'm in no position to judge what drug is right for them - frankly, it's none of my business. But i do support them having all possible choices, including pot. And if i ever get cancer i want all possible options open for me too.

                        You should be asking yourself exactly why the federal government makes shutting down these stores one of their highest priorities when there are *so* many other things that they should be focused on. I'd suggest following the money.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
                          If people are using it for pain... hydrocodone is available at any pharmacy as a generic for $4... I really dont think pharmaceutical companies have that much in stopping marijuana. It has 2 main uses which is pain and hunger drive. All those pothead will try and convince people it works better and has more uses... here is examples from an awesome list from www.letfreedomgrow.com
                          which supports legalization:

                          Autism
                          Anxiety
                          Aversive memories
                          Every cancer immaginable
                          Hepatitis
                          Sleep apnea
                          Pancreatitis

                          Are you kidding me?
                          Did you actually click on any of the links? The autism link, in particular, is talking about the LEGAL drug, Marinol.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
                            Did you actually click on any of the links? The autism link, in particular, is talking about the LEGAL drug, Marinol.
                            The autism link doesnt work...page not found.

                            Marinol is a derivative of marijuana and is legal and approved by the FDA...little different.

                            Just for fun:

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
                              The autism link doesnt work...page not found.

                              Marinol is a derivative of marijuana and is legal and approved by the FDA...little different.

                              Just for fun:
                              There was a redirection on that page. Anywho.....Marinol is a synthetic THC, but the point remains that THC has been proven to have advantages in clinical applications, which goes against your theory that cannabinoid research is a false science.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Treasure Chest View Post
                                There was a redirection on that page. Anywho.....Marinol is a synthetic THC, but the point remains that THC has been proven to have advantages in clinical applications, which goes against your theory that cannabinoid research is a false science.
                                smoking weed and controlled FDA approved THC is another thing. Would you give your kid marijuana if he had autism? Watch the video...you can skew results any way you want them.

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