My question is not meant to piss anyone off or to ruffle feathers. I just want to know this: If we suffer a global monetary meltdown; why would gold or silver hold any value? Would one have to assume we would go back to the old bartering system? Why wouldn't the gold or silver lose its monetary value as well?
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Originally posted by 2K2 LS1 View PostMy question is not meant to piss anyone off or to ruffle feathers. I just want to know this: If we suffer a global monetary meltdown; why would gold or silver hold any value? Would one have to assume we would go back to the old bartering system? Why wouldn't the gold or silver lose its monetary value as well?
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having progressed to where we are today and the great likely hood we will regress to the point at which we will have an economic melt down and an end of the monetary system we are all used to. I am just not %100 convinced that we will value gold or silver the way to which it once was used; or making them the new bartering systems means of monetary structure. I mean they are simply a natural resource; as is oil, gas, water, and the list goes on. I see those having just as much or more value being that they are depleting non-replaceable natural resources. I guess time will tell but I am a little skeptical. That and the fact that most of the gold and silver held in big quantities by individual would immediately become the target of the less fortunate and desperate in the time of a melt down of the world's economic structure. My reasoning to this is simple. Everyone has some amount of cash in the bank now, in their pocket, or home safe, etc. Not everyone; few actually, have gold or silver in their possession. That would tend to give it more value of course; but that would also leave a lot more people without and thus causing looting and things that our past has shown us on smaller scales.
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Metals will always hold value. If we have a major melt down, there will still be very rich people. There always have been. To the underlings, beans, cornmeal, and bullets will be that of most value. Look at the Indians. An Indian's greatest valued items were an ax, a knife, a gun or bow and arrows and an animal to ride. Those things made him able to defend himself and to feed himself and his family. That was "Basics 101" to the tenth degree.
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Originally posted by 2K2 LS1 View Posthaving progressed to where we are today and the great likely hood we will regress to the point at which we will have an economic melt down and an end of the monetary system we are all used to. I am just not %100 convinced that we will value gold or silver the way to which it once was used; or making them the new bartering systems means of monetary structure. I mean they are simply a natural resource; as is oil, gas, water, and the list goes on. I see those having just as much or more value being that they are depleting non-replaceable natural resources. I guess time will tell but I am a little skeptical. That and the fact that most of the gold and silver held in big quantities by individual would immediately become the target of the less fortunate and desperate in the time of a melt down of the world's economic structure. My reasoning to this is simple. Everyone has some amount of cash in the bank now, in their pocket, or home safe, etc. Not everyone; few actually, have gold or silver in their possession. That would tend to give it more value of course; but that would also leave a lot more people without and thus causing looting and things that our past has shown us on smaller scales."A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."
-Gerald Ford/Thomas Jefferson
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When the Soviet Union collapsed, an underground gold and silver trade sprung up virtually overnight. It lasted for quite a while, as the Ruble was as useless as the paper it was printed on.
Just some food for thought.
Also, I own gold as an investment. It is a safe place to put your money.Originally posted by lincolnboyAfter watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.
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I am stating on a global economic collapse; not just the US. I am having a hard time seeing gold traded for food the same as gas or oil good be. When you really think about it; gold is just a pretty looking precious metal. Their are far more scarce resources out there that I believe we could base a monetary value on in a bartering system then say gold. Just my personal opinion.
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Originally posted by 2K2 LS1 View PostI am stating on a global economic collapse; not just the US. I am having a hard time seeing gold traded for food the same as gas or oil good be. When you really think about it; gold is just a pretty looking precious metal. Their are far more scarce resources out there that I believe we could base a monetary value on in a bartering system then say gold. Just my personal opinion.
god bless.It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass
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If money is worthless then commodities become valuable. There are a lot of commodities that can be used for trading. The facts are that a lot of hedge funds and commodity traders have sold the public on the idea that the only reason precious metals are going up is that the dollar is becoming less valuable. The situation in Europe is blowing that idea out of the water, people are running to the dollar rather than precious metals. It is impossible for the dollar to collapse and the US to go under when everyone is using our currency and our debt as a safe haven.
Frost hit the nail on the head, something I have been saying all along since I never bought into the precious metals thing. In a situation of total anarchy lead will be more valuable than gold, just as long as that lead is traveling at 1800 fps.Originally posted by racrguyWhat's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?Originally posted by racrguyVoting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostI see firearms and ammunition as more of a global currency than gold. With this bullet I can get food, water, housing AND your gold.
That being said, a financial meltdown is exponentially more likely to happen. This is where gold and silver come in.Originally posted by lincolnboyAfter watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.
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