Opinions on the Tea Party Debate tonight?

[Vertnut]

Watched the entire debate. I'm curious to see what other board members thought about it.

[LANTIRN]

I think it was mostly a joke and just helped prove that the Republican part is full of just as much shit as the Democrats. For being a debate, there wasn't a whole lot of debating going on; 8 candidates and most of the answers consisted of "I agree with my opponent, except on those things we disagree on". It was mostly 7 or 8 people answering the question the same; except for Ron Paul who kept pulling shit out of left field, like when he started talking about Iraq and Afghanistan when they were talking about Social Security reform; I used to like him but he is starting to act more and more like Grampa Simpson every time he speaks.

I did love that fact that Bachman beat the shit out of Perry in regards to Guradisil; that was funny as shit.

As usual most of them just fucking danced around the questions and refused to give a direct answer; like when the guy asked directly "how much of my money that I earn do you think I should keep?" Pretty fucking direct question, but not one of them that answered actually answered the question; they just danced around it like most politicians.

The winner? In my opinion it was Cain; he was the only one that seemed to attempt each time to actually answer the fucking question, and he didn't give some bullshit answer like "I want to reform this and reform that"; he fucking told us what specifically he would reform. Maybe the only reason he has the aptitude to answer a fucking question is because he is not a politician; god knows the real "politicians" can't answer a fucking question to save their lives. And maybe that is what we need in office; a non-politician, because electing "real" politicians hasn't worked out that great so far.

[woodstock]

Pretty sad when they boo'd Ron Paul for telling them the truth.

[barronj]

They all dine at the same trough, no?

I would not dare suggest that any one of them could fuck this country so sideways as our current POTUS, but the ones with the sand to get it on track are not going to win the popularity/beauty contest.

[Vertnut]

Pretty sad when they boo'd Ron Paul for telling them the truth.

That's his people, too. I think we are seeing the end of old Ron. Between his website stating that 9-11 was the fault of the US (over the weekend), and saying that a 30-year-old man should die if he didn't have insurance, he didn't fare well.

Cain told them what they wanted to hear, but I think Bachmann made a pretty good turn-around tonight. Gingrich did well, too, but it's still Romney and Perry that are favorites.

[woodstock]

That's his people, too. I think we are seeing the end of old Ron. Between his website stating that 9-11 was the fault of the US (over the weekend), and saying that a 30-year-old man should die if he didn't have insurance, he didn't fare well.

Cain told them what they wanted to hear, but I think Bachmann made a pretty good turn-around tonight. Gingrich did well, too, but it's still Romney and Perry that are favorites.

Im sure it is and they should be ashamed of themselves. It doesnt help that mainstream media refuses to acknowledge him, but he still has immense support. As far as the 9-11 thing, he tells people how it is(the truth) and not always what they want to hear. As soon as they started applauding Santorum for explaining his reasons behind the 9-11 attack, you can tell the level of intelligence in the audience. In his defense he never said the man should die, he was merely saying everyone should be responsible for themselves. And if for some reason they cannot the church/community/family etc should help and not leave it on the government to pick up the check. I would have to agree that this debate was more of a joke than anything.

[VETTKLR]

Pretty sad when they boo'd Ron Paul for telling them the truth.

Agreed. In an amazing slight of hand, Santorum just wiped out Ron Paul. Of course, this is want MSNBC and the CNN groups wanted to see...these candidates are going to cannibalize each other.

[8mpg]

Santorum is a fucking idiot. I still have to agree with Ron Paul. Im all about minding our own business and stop the world police act.

[Vertnut]

Im sure it is and they should be ashamed of themselves. It doesnt help that mainstream media refuses to acknowledge him, but he still has immense support. As far as the 9-11 thing, he tells people how it is(the truth) and not always what they want to hear. As soon as they started applauding Santorum for explaining his reasons behind the 9-11 attack, you can tell the level of intelligence in the audience. In his defense he never said the man should die, he was merely saying everyone should be responsible for themselves. And if for some reason they cannot the church/community/family etc should help and not leave it on the government to pick up the check. I would have to agree that this debate was more of a joke than anything.

RP had a couple of opportunities to express himself, but opted to use our foreign policy (a couple of times) as the tool to balance the budget. He's become quite redundant, and even "tea partiers" would like to hear different ideas.

Though he didn't say,"let the man die", the inference was certainly there. Obviously, if the man is in ICU, a church organization can't care for him. This is the point on which Blitzer tried to get him to clarify.

[Vertnut]

Agreed. In an amazing slight of hand, Santorum just wiped out Ron Paul. Of course, this is want MSNBC and the CNN groups wanted to see...these candidates are going to cannibalize each other.

I'm not sure how much credit Santorum should get. He just sort of exposed RP. Perry got a helluva lot more aimed at him by most of the candidates on the gardasil.
These debates are designed to find a candidate through the process of elimination. Most of the questions came straight from Tea Party members, so I can't say they were "loaded", and they certainly weren't soft-balls.

[Cannonball996]

I thought the candidates did a lot more dancing around the questions then I have seen them do in the other debates. with most of these questions coming from the people, it was rare to hear a candidate give a direct answer.

[mustangguy289]

Ron Paul effed himself with his 9-11 comments.

Cain again was the only one that shared his ideas and plans to actually get shit done. Without touting... " look at me and what I am taking credit for ."

This debate seemed to be the most fair of the 3 I have watched. All candidates seemd to get a fair amount of time/questions. Michelle Bachman surprises me more and more at each debate.

I am sick of Romney and Perry going at it on stage. Get them out of there.

[mustangguy289]

Im sure it is and they should be ashamed of themselves. It doesnt help that mainstream media refuses to acknowledge him, but he still has immense support. As far as the 9-11 thing, he tells people how it is(the truth) and not always what they want to hear. As soon as they started applauding Santorum for explaining his reasons behind the 9-11 attack, you can tell the level of intelligence in the audience. In his defense he never said the man should die, he was merely saying everyone should be responsible for themselves. And if for some reason they cannot the church/community/family etc should help and not leave it on the government to pick up the check. I would have to agree that this debate was more of a joke than anything.

But what you have to realize is we need a candidate that can beat Obama. His out of left field comments will make this task very risky if he was nominated for the Repubs.

All I know about Ron Paul is that he wants to pull all foreign aid and military from other countries... etc. He is very redundant and thinks this is the answer for everything. He needs to become more well-rounded at these debates.

[woodstock]

RP had a couple of opportunities to express himself, but opted to use our foreign policy (a couple of times) as the tool to balance the budget. He's become quite redundant, and even "tea partiers" would like to hear different ideas.

Though he didn't say,"let the man die", the inference was certainly there. Obviously, if the man is in ICU, a church organization can't care for him. This is the point on which Blitzer tried to get him to clarify.

Really he's the only one up there who has any real interest in bringing our troops home and cutting overseas spending. Of course he brings up foreign policy whenever the issue of a budget comes up because ending the wars is one of his biggest goals. Im glad he threw out the part about getting rid of the dept of education along with the dept of energy and any other useless government offices, the crowd seemed to agree. When it comes to his foreign/monetary policies he has hit the nail on the head so to speak IMO.

As for his health care policy, IMO it sounds good. As he has said turning around this cluster fuck of a government we have now wont be something done overnight. But the man has consistency and a good track record of sticking to what he believes in.

The more I listen to Cain the more I like him as well though, he shares alot of similar views as Ron Paul. As long as those 2 idiots Perry/Romney dont win i'll be happy.

[Vertnut]

Really he's the only one up there who has any real interest in bringing our troops home and cutting overseas spending. Of course he brings up foreign policy whenever the issue of a budget comes up because ending the wars is one of his biggest goals. Im glad he threw out the part about getting rid of the dept of education along with the dept of energy and any other useless government offices, the crowd seemed to agree. When it comes to his foreign/monetary policies he has hit the nail on the head so to speak IMO.

As for his health care policy, IMO it sounds good. As he has said turning around this cluster fuck of a government we have now wont be something done overnight. But the man has consistency and a good track record of sticking to what he believes in.

We know he wants to bring troops home, but he begins almost every statement by saying that. It won't happen, and it's redundant. I liken RP's foreign policy to a man with a broken toe having his foot amputated. When he speaks of foreign policy or health care, there is no compromise, and even some over-reaction...which is interesting because I took a little beating from RP supporters when I stated that I don't like compromising with the dems in congress.