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  • Federal court tosses lawsuits over health reform

    RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — A federal appeals court in Virginia dismissed two lawsuits Thursday that had claimed President Barack Obama's health care overhaul was unconstitutional, though it remains likely the U.S. Supreme Court will eventually decide whether the government can force individuals to buy insurance.

    A three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals cited technicalities in both decisions and did not rule on the constitutional issues raised by the lawsuits.

    Two of the judges on the Virginia panel were appointed by Obama, the other by Bill Clinton.

    The Richmond-based appeals court is the third appellate court to rule in lawsuits challenging the health care reform law, which requires individuals to buy health insurance or pay a penalty. A federal appeals court in Cincinnati upheld the law, while an appeals court in Atlanta struck down the insurance mandate.

    More than 30 lawsuits have been filed across the country.

    The judges ruled 3-0 that Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli did not have legal standing to file his lawsuit. Cuccinelli had argued that the federal law conflicts with a state law that says no Virginian can be forced to buy insurance.

    Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote that the only apparent function of the state law was "to declare Virginia's opposition to a federal insurance mandate."

    Motz wrote that under Virginia's theory, a state could acquire standing to challenge any federal law just by enacting a state law. For example, a state could pass a law essentially opting out of Social Security.

    "Thus, if we were to adopt Virginia's standing theory, each state could become a roving constitutional watchdog of sorts; no issue, no matter how generalized or quintessentially political, would fall beyond a state's power to litigate in federal court," she wrote.

    Cuccinelli said in a written statement that he would appeal the ruling.

    "Our disappointment not only stems from the fact that the court ruled against us, but also that the court did not even reach the merits on the key question of Virginia's lawsuit — whether Congress has a power never before recognized in American history: the power to force one citizen to purchase a good or service from another citizen," Cuccinelli said.

    The Justice Department did not immediately respond to emails seeking comment.

    In the Liberty case, the court ruled 2-1 that the appeals court did not have jurisdiction to rule on the case because federal law prohibits challenging a tax before it is collected.

    Judge Andre Davis dissented in the Liberty case, writing that he believed the court did have jurisdiction. Furthermore, Davis wrote that if the court had ruled on the constitutional issue, he would hold that the health care reform law is a constitutional exercise of congressional power under the Commerce Clause.

    "We believe that this decision is clearly wrong," said Liberty attorney Mat Staver. "It goes against every other court decision in the country and it goes against even the interpretation of the U.S. Department of Justice regarding the law."
    Stevo
    Originally posted by SSMAN
    ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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    The "Supreme's" are all that matters now.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
      The "Supreme's" are all that matters now.
      They are all that matters. No other court has standing to hear a case between the state and the fed. The Constitution is clear on that
      I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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      • #4
        The debate over state's rights started the Civil war, wonder how it will work this time.
        "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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        • #5
          I'm pretty sure that's when it was all settled. In the civil war. If states rights had won out, it would have been the south that had won. How fucked up would it be if we still had states that had slavery? I don't think I'd want to live in a country like that.

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          • #6
            Why does everyone think the civil war was about sllavery?
            "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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            • #7
              Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
              I'm pretty sure that's when it was all settled. In the civil war. If states rights had won out, it would have been the south that had won. How fucked up would it be if we still had states that had slavery? I don't think I'd want to live in a country like that.
              No.... the Civil War was only about slavery.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Baron View Post
                Why does everyone think the civil war was about sllavery?
                Whiteys keepin us down.
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                • #9
                  All I know is that I have a ton of laundry that needs to get done around here. Having an extra hand might not be a bad thing.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Skidmark View Post
                    All I know is that I have a ton of laundry that needs to get done around here. Having an extra hand might not be a bad thing.
                    There are 30 to 40 MILLION people in the US getting paid to do nothing....time to end that Bullshit and get something in return for your troubles. Paid slaves would work too!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mustangguy289 View Post
                      No.... the Civil War was only about slavery.
                      No it wasn't.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Venom View Post
                        No it wasn't.
                        oh really?---- you do know I was being sarcastic right?
                        Last edited by mustangguy289; 09-09-2011, 08:57 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                          I'm pretty sure that's when it was all settled. In the civil war. If states rights had won out, it would have been the south that had won. How fucked up would it be if we still had states that had slavery? I don't think I'd want to live in a country like that.
                          It was never about slavery, it was about the states reminding the federal government the fed was created by the states, no the other way around. Slavery was the package that the North wrapped the issue around to make killing "Johnny Reb" more palatable.
                          I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                            It was never about slavery, it was about the states reminding the federal government the fed was created by the states, no the other way around. Slavery was the package that the North wrapped the issue around to make killing "Johnny Reb" more palatable.
                            Beat me to it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Skidmark View Post
                              All I know is that I have a ton of laundry that needs to get done around here. Having an extra hand might not be a bad thing.
                              Start grabbing your brethren from the sweat shops in Bangkok then.
                              How do we forget ourselves? How do we forget our minds?

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