UAW to try to unionize Hundai

[Hell-Bent SS]

Yes, I'm okay for people making what their labor is worth as determined by the market. Are you saying there are no federal laws in place about minimum wages, overtime laws, OSHA and so forth?

What you fail to realize is all the things that you talk about would have never come about without a union. Hell your blind if you think a company would not rather use a illegal and pay him minimum wages that means they can pocket more money, because they wouldn't have to carry insurance or pay him for a retirement.

[Forever_frost]

What you fail to realize is all the things that you talk about would have never come about without a union. Hell your blind if you think a company would not rather use a illegal and pay him minimum wages that means they can pocket more money, because they wouldn't have to carry insurance or pay him for a retirement.

I never said they didn't have their place once upon a time, but like segregation, it's time to move on. And you're saying union labor does a better job than non union? would you like to compare GM to Toyota? Or maybe the USPS to FedEx. Or public school to private.

[Forever_frost]

I went to a apprentice school for 5 years to learn my trade, therefore the people in my trade take pride in what we do. If your ok with letting a non-union company come in and just let anybody pipe up a nuke or a boiler where your kids go to school and just hope nothing ever goes wrong than more power to you. I know there is non-union people out there that do good work, but you would be surprised by how often we have to go in and fix all <b>there</b> work. So am I scared that I'm gonna get paid for what I'm worth??? No not at all.

And it's 'their'. I'm pretty sure I don't want a union laborer who doesn't know the difference to be working on anything but making my sub at Subway

[The King]

Maybe the lazy fucks are all members of the UAW. At my job it's hard to be lazy. First off it's not back braking mind numbing work. You're paid to get on a train and get it over the road in one piece in a timely manner. Kind of hard to be lazy doing that. We actually make more money per hour the faster we get the train from point A to B.

So does a dump truck driver.

[BP]

So does a dump truck driver.

A lot of them are teamsters. Not locally but try to haul some dirt in Boston with a non union truck and see what happens.

[The King]

A lot of them are teamsters. Not locally but try to haul some dirt in Boston with a non union truck and see what happens.

True, but I am of course only referring to local drivers. Same goes for rock haulers.

[Forever_frost]

So does a dump truck driver.

And delivery people

[FreightTrain]

So does a dump truck driver.

I havent seen to many dump trucks hauling 40 million pounds of rock going
50mph.

[Hell-Bent SS]

And it's 'their'. I'm pretty sure I don't want a union laborer who doesn't know the difference to be working on anything but making my sub at Subway

Thank you for helping me out "Captain English" what is it that you do since we are on the subject.

[Forever_frost]

Thank you for helping me out "Captain English" what is it that you do since we are on the subject.

I'm military since we are on the subject. So, brings us to the question. What do you think would happen if we had a union and went on strike for better pay, benefits and a safe working environment?

[FreightTrain]

I'm military since we are on the subject. So, brings us to the question. What do you think would happen if we had a union and went on strike for better pay, benefits and a safe working environment?

The exact same thing would happen if I went on strike. The president would order both our asses back to work.

[stevo]

I went to a apprentice school for 5 years to learn my trade, therefore the people in my trade take pride in what we do. If your ok with letting a non-union company come in and just let anybody pipe up a nuke or a boiler where your kids go to school and just hope nothing ever goes wrong than more power to you. I know there is non-union people out there that do good work, but you would be surprised by how often we have to go in and fix all there work. So am I scared that I'm gonna get paid for what I'm worth??? No not at all.

ROFLOLOLOLS at you thinking that just because someone has a union card that they are doing some kind of higher quality work as compared to a non-union worker.

Stevo

[Forever_frost]

The exact same thing would happen if I went on strike. The president would order both our asses back to work.

So you are comparing trains to military? So you union guys support laws that make union membership both voluntary and dues paying to be done by the individual instead of automatic deductions right?

[FreightTrain]

So you are comparing trains to military? So you union guys support laws that make union membership both voluntary and dues paying to be done by the individual instead of automatic deductions right?

Where the hell did you get that from.


The United States government deems that railroads are vital to our nation's security so we aren't allowed to strike over pay, benefits, yada yada yada.

[Hell-Bent SS]

I never said they didn't have their place once upon a time, but like segregation, it's time to move on. And you're saying union labor does a better job than non union? would you like to compare GM to Toyota? Or maybe the USPS to FedEx. Or public school to private.

So do you think that because the U.S. Constitution worked back then we should just let it disapear now? I am saying that union labor does better work, if you read my earlier post I said we spend more time fixing non-union stuff than we do putting in or own work.Well lets do this next time you go to the Dr. let some one that just watched help you out, and I'll go to the Dr. that went to school and learned.