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  • #46
    Originally posted by Gargamel View Post
    2 large keys to F-22 stealth (among others) are planform alignment and RAM (Radar Absorbent Material)

    Planform Alignment and sawtooth edges can be re-created quite readily, although the RAM may be harder to develop.

    Hopefully that helicopter that blew up in Pakistan didn't have that material you are talking about. You know China got there hands on it. Didn't they get a hold of some RAM years ago from a crashed plane?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by jnobles06 View Post
      Not yet, but depending on how successful it is in trials... JSFs do not have a number of very trick items from an F22 either. One in particular was a bad choice to leave off.

      CJ, we may have to go shoot some targets sometime, and discuss this further. Gargamel, do you shoot?
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      • #48
        Time to break out the reverse engineered UFO's. See if they can match that shit.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Chas_svo View Post
          Not yet, but depending on how successful it is in trials... JSFs do not have a number of very trick items from an F22 either. One in particular was a bad choice to leave off.

          CJ, we may have to go shoot some targets sometime, and discuss this further. Gargamel, do you shoot?
          I've got a used .38 revolver for home defense that I haven't even put any rounds through yet.... its been years since I've been to the range.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Gargamel View Post
            I've got a used .38 revolver for home defense that I haven't even put any rounds through yet.... its been years since I've been to the range.
            I have enough guns for everyone.
            "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
            "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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            • #51
              The E model 18 has been my favorite demo at shows since it's release. An amazingly capable aircraft. Does things aircraft "shouldn't" be able to do.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Gargamel View Post
                The F-22 has a significant capability to attack surface targets. In the air-to-ground configuration the aircraft can carry two 1,000-pound GBU-32 Joint Direct Attack Munitions internally

                The aircraft will also be able to carry 8 of the new SDBs "Small Diameter Bomb" internally when they come on line.

                The Raptor also has weapons rated pylons if need be.... (Of course it screws up the stealth characteristics)




                "Lockheed Martin, Boeing and the USAF have acheived another milestone as the U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptor air dominance fighter destroyed a small ground target in the F-22′s fastest and highest JDAM delivery yet. Flying at 1.5 times speed of sound (1.5 mach – 1142 miles per hours) and at an altitude of 50,000 feet, the raptor released a 1000 pound JDAM that destroyed a target 27.5 miles away."
                i stand corrected. I had no idea they can open up the ordinance bay to fit GBUs.

                I know it CAN have pylons, but last i heard , the air force was very forceful that the fighter maintain its stealth capability over any other considerations.

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                • #53
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                  Russian stealth fighter aborts takeoff at air show

                  ZHUKOVSKY, Russia (AP) — Russia's first stealth fighter jet had to abort a takeoff at Moscow's International Aviation and Space Show on Sunday because of what officials said was a malfunction in the right engine.

                  The T-50 did not leave the runway and was slowed by a brake parachute.

                  The twin-engined jet was traveling at 60 miles per hour (100 kph) when the pilot decided to abort takeoff because of a right engine malfunction, the RIA Novosti news agency reported, citing a representative of United Aircraft Building Corp., a state-controlled holding that incorporates top Russian aircraft-makers,

                  The T-50, which made its maiden flight in January 2010, had been kept out of the public eye before its debut at the air show on Wednesday during a visit by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

                  The fighter is intended to match the U.S. F-22 Raptor, which entered service in 2005.

                  The T-50 still lacks new engines and state-of-the art equipment, and its serial production is only expected to begin in 2015 at the most optimistic forecast. Two T-50s are currently undergoing tests, and another pair is expected to join them later this year.

                  Russia has signed deals with India to cooperate on the aircraft's development, and hopes that the Indian air force will become a major customer for the plane.

                  The six-day air show at the Zhukovsky air base outside of Moscow wrapped up on Sunday.

                  Stevo
                  Originally posted by SSMAN
                  ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                  • #54
                    Still under warranty?

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                    • #55
                      One advantage the T-50 has over the F-22: It flies (well, most of the time).

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by ZYouL8R View Post
                        One advantage the T-50 has over the F-22: It flies (well, most of the time).
                        You do realize the T-50 is a prototype, it has no weapons and no radar, etc.. it's just a flying test plane. It's still 10-15 years away from service most likely.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
                          I have enough guns for everyone.
                          I could keep us shooting for a while.
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                          01 TJ - new toy - Sold
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                          • #58
                            Funny, India can't even build F16s, but they're gonna build those. I call b.s.
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                            01 TJ - new toy - Sold
                            65 F100 (460 + C6) - Sold

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
                              You do realize the T-50 is a prototype, it has no weapons and no radar, etc.. it's just a flying test plane. It's still 10-15 years away from service most likely.
                              Yes.

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