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    Liberating people by posting innocent people's contact info? Bullshit, they are doing just because they found a weakness in the site.

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco's mass transit system prepared for renewed protests Monday, a day after hackers angry over blocked cell phone service at some transit stations broke into a website and posted company contact information for more than 2,000 customers.

    The action by a hacker group known as Anonymous was the latest showdown between anarchists angry at perceived attempts to limit free speech and officials trying to control protests that grow out of social networking and have the potential to become violent.

    Anonymous posted people's names, phone numbers, and street and email addresses on its own website, while also calling for a disruption of the Bay Area Rapid Transit's evening commute Monday.

    BART officials said Sunday that they were working a strategy to try to block any efforts by protesters to try to disrupt the service.

    "We have been planning for the protests that are said to be shaping up for tomorrow," BART spokesman Jim Allison said. He did not provide specifics, but said BART police will be staffing stations and trains and that the agency had already contacted San Francisco police.

    The transit agency disabled the effected website, myBART.org, Sunday night after it also had been altered by apparent hackers who posted images of the so-called Guy Fawkes masks that anarchists have previously worn when showing up to physical protests.

    The cyber attack came in response to the BART's decision to block wireless service in several of its San Francisco stations Thursday night as the agency aimed to thwart a planned protest over a transit police shooting. Officials said the protest had been designed to disrupt the evening commute.

    "We are Anonymous, we are your citizens, we are the people, we do not tolerate oppression from any government agency," the hackers wrote on their own website. "BART has proved multiple times that they have no problem exploiting and abusing the people."

    Allison described myBART.org as a "satellite site" used for marketing purposes. It's operated by an outside company and sends BART alerts and other information to customers, Allison said.

    The names and contact info published by Sunday came from a database of 55,000 subscribers, he said. He did not know if the group had obtained information from all the subscribers, he said, adding that no bank account or credit card information was listed.

    The BART computer problem was the latest hack the loosely organized group claimed credit for this year. Last month, the FBI and British and Dutch officials made 21 arrests, many of them related to the group's attacks on Internet payment provider PayPal Inc., which has been targeted over its refusal to process donations to WikiLeaks. The group also claims credit for disrupting the websites of Visa and MasterCard in December when the credit card companies stopped processing donations to WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange.

    BART's decision to shut down wireless access was criticized by many as heavy handed, and some raised questions about whether the move violated free speech.

    The problems began Thursday night when BART officials blocked wireless access to disrupt organization of a demonstration protesting the July 3 shooting death by BART police who said the 45-year-old victim was wielding a knife.

    Activists also remain upset by the 2009 death of Oscar Grant, an unarmed black passenger who was shot by a white officer on an Oakland train platform. The officer quit the force and was convicted of involuntary manslaughter after the shooting.

    Facing backlash from civil rights advocates and one of its own board members, BART has defended the decision to block cell phone use, with Allison saying the cell phone disruptions were legal because the agency owns the property and infrastructure.

    "I'm just shocked that they didn't think about the implications of this. We really don't have the right to be this type of censor," Lynette Sweet, who serves on BART's board of directors, said previously. "In my opinion, we've let the actions of a few people affect everybody. And that's not fair."

    Laura Eichman was among those whose email and home phone number were published by the hackers Sunday.

    "I think what they (the hackers) did was illegal and wrong. I work in IT myself, and I think that this was not ethical hacking. I think this was completely unjustified," Eichman said.

    She said she doesn't blame BART and feels its action earlier in the week of blocking cell phone service was reasonable.

    "It doesn't necessarily keep me from taking BART in the future but I will certainly have to review where I set up accounts and what kind of data I'm going to keep online," Eichman said.

    Michael Beekman of San Francisco told the AP that he didn't approve of BART's move to cut cell phone service or the Anonymous posting.

    "I'm not paranoid but i feel like it was an invasion of privacy," he said. "I thought I would never personally be involved in any of their (Anonymous') shenanigans."

    The group Anonymous, according to its website, does "not tolerate oppression from any government agency," and it said it was releasing the User Info Database of MyBart.gov as one of many actions to come.

    "We apologize to any citizen that has his information published, but you should go to BART and ask them why your information wasn't secure with them," the statement said.
    Stevo
    Originally posted by SSMAN
    ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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    Misleading wouldn't you say? I've seen a couple posts where you refer to Anon, you don't exactly know what you're talking about.

    Some people acting anonymously are trying to do so for global good, free speech, some are just assholes doing it for entertainment. There is no hierarchy/organization/formal membership. Simply attribution by those responsible for whatever particular action. There is no organization, it's a self-stated blanket term. Go post on 4chan, you're now Anonymous!
    US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer

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    • #3
      posted company contact information for more than 2,000 customers.
      Innocent people, not people working for the company, not making decisions for the company, not making money from the company.. just normal people that use the mass transit go to work and lead normal lives... and yet these hackers attack them by posting their info on the internet.... and yet they are acting for the global good...

      Stevo
      Originally posted by SSMAN
      ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by stevo View Post
        Innocent people, not people working for the company, not making decisions for the company, not making money from the company.. just normal people that use the mass transit go to work and lead normal lives... and yet these hackers attack them by posting their info on the internet.... and yet they are acting for the global good...

        Stevo
        Yeah, you posted that already.

        You're killin' me smalls!

        Read my post again. There is no real group, no formal organization, no official membership.

        One "they" isn't the same as another "they." You're hung up as if people doing the things for good are the same as the ones doing things you disapprove of or that there is some sort of official link altogether.

        Do something, SPECIFICALLY YOU - right now, anything, and attribute it to Anon, bam, you're Anon.
        US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hobie View Post
          Yeah, you posted that already.

          You're killin' me smalls!

          Read my post again. There is no real group, no formal organization, no official membership.

          One "they" isn't the same as another "they." You're hung up as if people doing the things for good are the same as the ones doing things you disapprove of or that there is some sort of official link altogether.

          Do something, SPECIFICALLY YOU - right now, anything, and attribute it to Anon, bam, you're Anon.
          We all know you are 'their' cheerleader, you are the one that postrd so adamantly that 'they' were implementing regime change/fighting for freedom, and yet you are now saying that 'they' are not actually a group, and are just a loose organization? Do I need to actually search and quote your comments?

          Pick a stance dude and stick to it. They can't be both a group of freedom fighters and then just a loose bunch of asshats on the internet, make up your mind.

          Stevo
          Originally posted by SSMAN
          ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by stevo View Post
            We all know you are 'their' cheerleader, you are the one that postrd so adamantly that 'they' were implementing regime change/fighting for freedom, and yet you are now saying that 'they' are not actually a group, and are just a loose organization? Do I need to actually search and quote your comments?

            Pick a stance dude and stick to it. They can't be both a group of freedom fighters and then just a loose bunch of asshats on the internet, make up your mind.

            Stevo
            In 10K+ posts I've made one thread anon-related, that makes me a cheerleader? I started paying attention to the Anon thing when they busted a child-predator a couple years ago. One thread in 2-3 years??? To me it's a really interesting phenomenon. There is no stance to pick. It's not like I'm the guy who can define Anon, I'm just some lone jerk-off you're trying to pick an e-fight with. I still think it's cool random people from all over the world came together in risking their freedom to help topple oppressive regimes with zero personal gain.

            Think of it like flashmobs, some people come together and dance to entertain others and have a good time. Some people do it to beat people up and steal basketball shoes. It's not like the two are officially the same thing.

            Lighten up broski, it's just the internet!
            US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stevo View Post
              We all know you are 'their' cheerleader, you are the one that postrd so adamantly that 'they' were implementing regime change/fighting for freedom, and yet you are now saying that 'they' are not actually a group, and are just a loose organization? Do I need to actually search and quote your comments?

              Pick a stance dude and stick to it. They can't be both a group of freedom fighters and then just a loose bunch of asshats on the internet, make up your mind.

              Stevo
              Here, because I'm not sure you could figure it out on your own.
              Originally posted by Hobie
              "Hacker group" implies some sort of organization, hierarchy, and membership of which there is none. Random people come together to achieve a goal under a sort of universal identifier. Stating they are a hacker group isn't a negative nor is it a positive, hell, it's a very ambiguous depiction anyways.
              http://dfwmustangs.net/forums/showpo...4&postcount=32
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              HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
                Here, because I'm not sure you could figure it out on your own. http://dfwmustangs.net/forums/showpo...4&postcount=32
                Ha, thanks man!

                Username change? who is this? Seems like I should recognize someone with so many posts.
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