US Postal Service looking at laying of 120k people.

[GhostTX]

Damn, the post office I go to I swear I've only seen the same 3 people over the past year working there.

You see people work there? Last time I was at the post office, me and 2 other people were in line with no one at the front. After 10 minutes, I dialed up information, got the phone number of the post office I was at and called. When they answered "can I help you?" I was like, ya, you have 3 customers that have been waiting over 10 minutes and we'd love you for to come up and help us.

My only positive experience with customer service on the USPS is my current postman for my house. She is great at delivering our mail and goes way out of the way for delivering.

[talisman]

You see people work there? Last time I was at the post office, me and 2 other people were in line with no one at the front. After 10 minutes, I dialed up information, got the phone number of the post office I was at and called. When they answered "can I help you?" I was like, ya, you have 3 customers that have been waiting over 10 minutes and we'd love you for to come up and help us.

My only positive experience with customer service on the USPS is my current postman for my house. She is great at delivering our mail and goes way out of the way for delivering.

LOL! Usually when I get home from work, the post office lady is sitting next to the mailbox bank at my apartment complex reading magazines in her truck. I always wonder if those magazines are part of someone elses mail...

[CJ]

GOOD. That's all I can say. loosing BILLIONS of dollars annually... goes to show why you do NOT want government running ANYTHING. They lose money like fucking CRAZY, and they are highly inefficient.

Think of it this way. UPS and Fedex are more reliable (in my opinion), easier to contact and work with, CONSIDERABLY better tracking... and.... AND... they MAKE millions of dollars annually. You want to save our country billions of dollars? Privatize the us postal service, or at least, hand it over to UPS. Get the damn government the hell away from it.

[Broncojohnny]

The post office is a junk mail subsidy program that provides union scale pay, benefits and retirement, mostly to minorities, on the side....

[talisman]

The post office is a junk mail subsidy program that provides union scale pay, benefits and retirement, mostly to minorities, on the side....

That about sums it up. I get about 6 actual pieces of mail a month. The rest goes immediately into the circular file.

[talisman]

Make that 220,000. Damn.



Hundreds of thousands of postal workers could soon lose their jobs, or face drastic changes to their benefits. According to documents obtained by CNNMoney, the United States Postal Service is appealing to Congress to remove collective bargaining restrictions in order to lay off 120,000 workers. It also wants congressional approval to replace existing government health care and retirement plans.

The post office claims it needs to eliminate 220,000 positions, or more than 30% of its staff by 2015, but only 100,000 of those positions can be made through attrition. The other 120,000 must come from lay offs, according to the documents. "To restore the Postal Service to financial viability, it is imperative that we have the ability to reduce our workforce rapidly," the USPS wrote.

The USPS is also asking Congress to change legislation that requires postal workers to get federal health care and retirement benefits. Instead, the Postal Service would replace them with its own benefit plans.

Currently, postal employees participate in the Federal Employees Health Benefits program, the Civil Service Retirement System and the Federal Employees Retirement System. If given congressional approval, the Post Office would replace those with new plans that would save money, while offering comparable benefits to employees, according to the documents.

In the documents, the USPS lays out the harsh reality of the situation: mounting losses, declining mail volume due both to the recession and the shift toward digital alternatives, and the need for drastic measures to cut costs.

[Denny]

Hoooooooo Leeeeeeeee Shit!

Funny it says by 2015.

[FreightTrain]

I wish they'd fire the damn rural contractors that deliver my mail.

[talisman]

I wish they'd fire the damn rural contractors that deliver my mail.

They probably could if they weren't union.. Oh wait.

[FreightTrain]

They probably could if they weren't union.. Oh wait.

Actually the rural contractors aren't union... oh wait... and their service is even shittier then the union carriers.

And before this gets dragged into a union fault isn't the majority of the postal workers civil service. You think union employees are bad civil service employees take the fucking cake.

[CJ]

civil service employees take the fucking cake.

oh please, no contest.

[The King]

And before this gets dragged into a union fault isn't the majority of the postal workers civil service. You think union employees are bad civil service employees take the fucking cake.

Civil service employess that are unionized, and yes, I think union employees are bad.

[GhostTX]

Here comes the unions:

...The U.S. Postal Service’s two largest unions blasted the financially strapped agency’s proposal to cut as many as 120,000 jobs and pull its workers out of the retirement and health benefits plans covering federal workers for a new benefit systems.

The Postal Service, which is facing a second year of losses totaling $8 billion or more, would need congressional approval for its plan and cooperation from the postal unions, which have contracts that ban layoffs unless Congress intervenes.

But the American Postal Workers Union, APWU, and the National Association of Letter Carriers, NALC, made their opposition clear.

“The APWU will vehemently oppose any attempt to destroy the collective bargaining rights of postal employees or tamper with our recently negotiated contract,” APWU President Cliff Guffey said. “Crushing postal workers and slashing service will not solve the Postal Service’s financial crisis.”

NALC President Frederic Rolando said the Postal Service is using “the financial crisis caused by the deep recession and the crushing congressional pre-funding mandates to strip postal employees or our bargaining rights.”

“Although we are prepared to seriously bargain over any proposal, we will resist this blatant attempt to subvert and circumvent collective bargaining,” he said.
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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...#ixzz1UvNUIXjw

[mikeb]

“The APWU will vehemently oppose any attempt to destroy the collective bargaining rights of postal employees or tamper with our recently negotiated contract” APWU President Cliff Guffey said.

“Although we are prepared to seriously bargain over any proposal, we will resist this blatant attempt to subvert and circumvent collective bargaining,” he said.

Let's see... they are against alterations in their ability to collective bargain, and are against any attempt to modify their current contract - but yet are "prepared to seriously bargain over any proposal?"... seems like he's talking out of his ass. These unions won't give an inch. I say let them hit the unemployment line, and with obama's current high unemployment rate there are plenty of people that would be thankful for a job, and would be willing to step in and replace them.

[Captain Crawfish]

the union will drain the us postal service dry in no time. unfortunately the taxpayers will pick up the tab