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  • #31
    Doesn't matter how intelligent someone is, intelligent people do absolutely stupid things. Intelligence should never be a consideration, common sense and attention to detail is key when being a leader. You can't follow when you're elected to lead.
    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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    • #32
      The problem isn't whether he is or isn't stupid.

      The problem IS that he thinks he is a genius and he suffers from hubris. I'm virtually certain of both of those things.
      Originally posted by racrguy
      What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
      Originally posted by racrguy
      Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
        Agreed and agreed.

        Lower taxes did nothing to get us into this. If Obama would take a giant dose of "fuck off" and taxes were cut the economy would slowly begin to pull out. When he is replaced and people feel confident that they won't be forced to live on less, spending will grow and things should normalize, to some degree.
        Low taxes aren't bad, but big spending, big deficits, and big borrowing are. I'm not saying taxes should've been raised. I would have preferred spending been cut.

        The economy is coming back, it's the giant burden of gov't that's slowing the recovery IMO.
        US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
          giving up on fox news means you're relying almost entirely on liberal media. I've found that as the mainstream media gets further and further left (it's literally turning into state controlled marxism) Fox News appears more and more right, which it's just the mainstream traveling further from center.
          A) That's an absolutely incorrect assumption. It's so incorrect it angers me. Just because I don't subscribe to the Murdoch bullshit machine you assume I'm getting all my news from what, MSNBC? Are you forgetting the printed word and the internet? There are more sources for news than the television.

          B) The mainstream media is moving further RIGHT, not left. However, anyone that solely relies on FNC and AM radio is going to disagree with me. Very few captains of industry at the highest reaches of capitalism are liberals.

          C) Fox is more like propaganda. It's made up of far too many lies to push an agenda and I just can't take it anymore. I got into the habit of googling as I watched when they reported on shit that I knew was incorrect and it was just flat out lies over and over.

          Ron Paul is a perfect example. Get all your talking heads to call him a "fringe candidate", a "cook", repeat "he has no chance" over and over to millions of viewers, show them polls that the results are reversed, show polls that are flat out fabrications, show footage from someone else's event where no one showed up instead of the correct Ron Paul rally, and what do you get? A marginalized viewpoint, business as usual, and the ruining/hi-jacking of our party. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid! I FOR ONE WELCOME OUR NEW CULTURE OF CORRUPTION, YAY!
          US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Hobie View Post
            A) That's an absolutely incorrect assumption. It's so incorrect it angers me. Just because I don't subscribe to the Murdoch bullshit machine you assume I'm getting all my news from what, MSNBC? Are you forgetting the printed word and the internet? There are more sources for news than the television.

            B) The mainstream media is moving further RIGHT, not left. However, anyone that solely relies on FNC and AM radio is going to disagree with me. Very few captains of industry at the highest reaches of capitalism are liberals.

            C) Fox is more like propaganda. It's made up of far too many lies to push an agenda and I just can't take it anymore. I got into the habit of googling as I watched when they reported on shit that I knew was incorrect and it was just flat out lies over and over.

            Ron Paul is a perfect example. Get all your talking heads to call him a "fringe candidate", a "cook", repeat "he has no chance" over and over to millions of viewers, show them polls that the results are reversed, show polls that are flat out fabrications, show footage from someone else's event where no one showed up instead of the correct Ron Paul rally, and what do you get? A marginalized viewpoint, business as usual, and the ruining/hi-jacking of our party. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid! I FOR ONE WELCOME OUR NEW CULTURE OF CORRUPTION, YAY!
            Dude, no offense, but you need to pull your head out and take a breath.

            ALL media is tainted and biased to their own views and whomever is putting money in their pockets.
            "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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            • #36
              I think he is book smart, ill give him that, but he has been very weak as a leader. he has demonstrated that he is a slave to his wallstreet campaign contributors, doing their bidding. he gives in to anything congress wants.. he talks a tuff game but has yet to back it up. I am really surprised more liberals and progressives are not coming out against him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Baron View Post
                Dude, no offense, but you need to pull your head out and take a breath.

                ALL media is tainted and biased to their own views and whomever is putting money in their pockets.

                Only on this dark little corner of the internet do people so my replies as angry.

                It's like that "gangsta" middle school I went to where no one got my sense of humor.
                US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer

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                • #38
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                  And what is that secret? I think it's just a matter of intellect. It has become obvious, in a sense that cannot be denied, that Obama is a fundamentally stupid man. He has all the equipment, all the training, would probably do well on all the tests -- but it doesn't come together and produces no worthwhile results. He knows all the buzzwords, and how to get them across. He easily impresses crowds and onlookers so long as the questions don't get too detailed. But he can't turn any of this into action. Everything he touches, without exception, falls to pieces. He has no single political success to his record. His administration is one endless Gobi, lifeless and bare. Compared to Obama, even Warren Harding, the last man on everybody's list, looks like a beleaguered giant. What we have in Obama is the stupidest man who ever sat in the Oval Office. (And please -- no claims that this is some kind "master plan" to bring the country down. You cannot construct a workable plan by piling failure upon failure. Not even Saul Alinsky himself could have brought that off.)
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                  "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cannonball996 View Post
                    I think he is book smart, ill give him that, but he has been very weak as a leader. he has demonstrated that he is a slave to his wallstreet campaign contributors, doing their bidding. he gives in to anything congress wants.. he talks a tuff game but has yet to back it up. I am really surprised more liberals and progressives are not coming out against him.
                    What book are you basing that off of?!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Hobie View Post
                      Only on this dark little corner of the internet do people so my replies as angry.

                      It's like that "gangsta" middle school I went to where no one got my sense of humor.
                      Wat?
                      "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                      • #41
                        No shit LOL

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Hobie View Post
                          B) The mainstream media is moving further RIGHT, not left.
                          LOFL... I can only assume you don't know what the mainstream media is.
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                          • #43
                            LOL @ the coning sig!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
                              LOFL... I can only assume you don't know what the mainstream media is.
                              Everyone but Fox News? In my years on this earth, I've NEVER seen the media so far in the tank for a POTUS. I always heard they loved Kennedy, but it was a different time then. TV consisted of about 3 channels.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
                                Everyone but Fox News? In my years on this earth, I've NEVER seen the media so far in the tank for a POTUS. I always heard they loved Kennedy, but it was a different time then. TV consisted of about 3 channels.
                                All of the networks, ABC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN... maintstream media. I'll agree it's gotten to the point where they no longer have any dignity left to maintain such a ridiculous bias.
                                "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                                "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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