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  • San Francisco Considers Legal Protection for Criminals

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/22...for-criminals/

    A legislative proposal in San Francisco seeks to make ex-cons and felons a protected class, along with existing categories of residents like African-Americans, people with disabilities and pregnant women. If passed by city supervisors, landlords and employers would be prohibited from asking applicants about their criminal past.

    Supporters say it's an effort to help former offenders get back on their feet, but critics call the concept a crime in itself.

    "My mother is an immigrant, my mother-in-law is a Jew and I'm a gay man. Those are all protected categories, but you're going to put a felon in there as a protected category? That's not right," said Andrew Long, a board member of the San Francisco Apartment Association.

    But ex-cons contend they're immediately disqualified by employers and landlords reluctant to trust anyone with a rap sheet.

    "People don't want to hire felons," says Monique Love, who served time five years ago on a drug offense. Clean and sober now, she says boxes on application forms asking about criminal history unfairly discriminate against her. At one recent interview, Monique says she never got the chance to tell her story of recovery and rehabilitation.

    "I didn't get a shot. Not a shot," she says. "As soon as he saw that box was checked, the boss was like, 'I'm sorry, we can't help you.'"

    According to The City's Human Rights Commission, San Francisco has the highest recidivism rate of any big city in California, almost 80 percent. With an influx of new prisoners set to be released because of the state's budget crisis, supporters argue felons need legal protections before they're disqualified simply because of their record, which could be decades old and for crimes that have nothing to do with the job they're hoping to get.

    Commission Director Teresa Sparks calls it a public safety issue.

    "Without housing, it's hard to keep a steady job, and many times because of that, people recommit," Sparks said. She argues a criminal history shouldn't be the only reason someone is denied housing or work.

    "All we're saying is get a chance to know them, see if they're qualified otherwise, before you use that as a criteria for taking them out," she said.

    Hawaii, New York and Philadelphia have enacted similar policies to prevent blanket discrimination against felons in the private job market, and some cities in Illinois and Wisconsin have imposed such restrictions on rental property owners.

    At a public hearing at San Francisco's City Hall this week, some landlords worried that if the policy passes here, they'll face a barrage of lawsuits from unscrupulous convicts.

    "Some ex-cons will probably make this a business, going from apartment complex to apartment complex, getting denied for whatever reason, and then filing a nuisance lawsuit," Long said.

    Sparks says rental property owners could turn away sex offenders and people who've committed some violent crimes, like murder. Employers could also reject job applicants if their crimes are "significantly related" to the position they are seeking, but they could only inquire about the applicants' criminal past at the end of the interview process.

    That doesn't sit well with Gary Bauer, owner of Bauer's Intelligent Transportation, one of San Francisco's biggest transportation companies. He says he needs to know about an applicants criminal history right up front.

    "We won't discriminate against anyone, but we need to know what we're looking at. What is their background? Is it grand auto theft? We're running transportation," Bauer said, adding, "Being in California, and in San Francisco, it gets tougher and tougher every year ... when they come down with these things."

    Public hearings continue to formalize the legislation, with lawsuits sure to follow, if San Francisco gives legal protections to people who broke the law.
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    Once again, only in San Francisco.....

    But I have to snicker at the thought of a gay guy in San Fran getting pissed off about the addition of another "protected class".

  • #2
    I am OK with it pending a certain criteria for proving that there hasn't been a recurrence. Violent crime felonies as well as child sex crimes (rape is a violent crime) are instantaneous exclusions.
    Originally posted by PGreenCobra
    I can't get over the fact that you get to go live the rest of your life, knowing that someone made a Halloween costume out of you. LMAO!!
    Originally posted by Trip McNeely
    Originally posted by dsrtuckteezy
    dont downshift!!
    Go do a whooly in front of a Peterbilt.

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    • #3
      They have a point about felons not being able to do anything. But this is a free country, a property owner should be able to exclude anyone they want for any reason they want.
      Originally posted by racrguy
      What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
      Originally posted by racrguy
      Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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      • #4
        Fucking SF. I had to be in at work at 4:30 this morning for an earnings call. I forgot to move my car so the city towed it. I had to walk through the hood to get it. $450 later I'm getting in my car and find an additional $75 parking ticket (from an hour before they towed it) on the windshield. Lmao, fucking bastards...
        Originally posted by davbrucas
        I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

        Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

        You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by slow99 View Post
          Fucking SF. I had to be in at work at 4:30 this morning for an earnings call. I forgot to move my car so the city towed it. I had to walk through the hood to get it. $450 later I'm getting in my car and find an additional $75 parking ticket (from an hour before they towed it) on the windshield. Lmao, fucking bastards...
          Lol at $450 to get your car. Like that isn't a god damn rip off.
          Originally posted by racrguy
          What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
          Originally posted by racrguy
          Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
            Lol at $450 to get your car. Like that isn't a god damn rip off.
            Oh fuck, for less than a day in impound. You know there are plenty of people who can't afford to retrieve that shit on a day's notice. Guy told me it's an additional $82.50 in storage fees per day as well. I just can't get over the ticket in addition. Corrupt as shit here. A city councilman slipped a couple months ago and publicly stated that they budget in parking ticket revenue every year... to the tune of $100 MM.
            Originally posted by davbrucas
            I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

            Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

            You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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            • #7
              Oh, and I know a guy who had an F-350 double cab here in the city for a day. He parked it, came out and had TWO parking tickets on his windshield (blocking 1.5 parking spaces). LMFAO!
              Originally posted by davbrucas
              I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

              Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

              You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                Oh fuck, for less than a day in impound. You know there are plenty of people who can't afford to retrieve that shit on a day's notice. Guy told me it's an additional $82.50 in storage fees per day as well. I just can't get over the ticket in addition. Corrupt as shit here. A city councilman slipped a couple months ago and publicly stated that they budget in parking ticket revenue every year... to the tune of $100 MM.
                Unfuckinbelievable!
                Originally posted by racrguy
                What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                Originally posted by racrguy
                Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                  Unfuckinbelievable!
                  I got a $75 parking ticket on the Fourth of July at 7:02 AM ... parked in front of my own damned house. Street cleaning starts at 7:00 AM on Mondays.
                  Originally posted by davbrucas
                  I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                  Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                  You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                  • #10
                    Something definitely needs to be done to better integrate felons back into society to reduce the chances they'll break the law again. If a guy has served his time and wants to live an honest life he should get a decent chance at doing just that.

                    However, in typical San Fran style, this is carrying too far.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                      I got a $75 parking ticket on the Fourth of July at 7:02 AM ... parked in front of my own damned house. Street cleaning starts at 7:00 AM on Mondays.
                      Jody, they gotta pay for all those freebies somehow! That $450 you paid probably covered a week in a shelter for a gay, jewish, ex-con, black child molester. They're "protected", you know...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
                        Jody, they gotta pay for all those freebies somehow! That $450 you paid probably covered a week in a shelter for a gay, jewish, ex-con, black child molester. They're "protected", you know...
                        Lmfao! About the same time that the $100 MM parking ticket line-item news broke, there was a news story outlining how the city of SF spends about $50k a year per homeless person. Good fucking God.
                        Originally posted by davbrucas
                        I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                        Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                        You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                        • #13
                          Well they can try it, but anyone can get any of that information with a simple click of the mouse. So its a futile attempt. I know those commies don't know this cause they are generally just leeches, but no reason has to ever be given for why someone didn't get a job.

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                          • #14
                            How about people just make the decision to not fuck up their life for ever?

                            Stevo
                            Originally posted by SSMAN
                            ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                              Fucking SF. I had to be in at work at 4:30 this morning for an earnings call. I forgot to move my car so the city towed it. I had to walk through the hood to get it. $450 later I'm getting in my car and find an additional $75 parking ticket (from an hour before they towed it) on the windshield. Lmao, fucking bastards...


                              $450 for a them having it a couple of hours, plus a ticket? Are they actively trying to keep people from wanting to move there? That is fucking insane. Guess Danny and I better be careful when we're there in September.

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