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Originally posted by exlude View PostWell, I'm much better educated on the topic at hand than you are...slapping around deniers has been about all my degree has been useful for so far. But that's getting boring already because all ya'll do is continue to deny.
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Originally posted by Denny View PostI have still yet to see proof... but as long as you say it's out there, we're good, huh?
Deny till you die, dawg.
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Originally posted by exlude View PostLol, such hostility. But if I'm just passing, you got dropped from the class...lol
Bottom line; no species has ever been observed changing into another one. No one can claim anything came from a single cell. There is no such thing as proving any fossil is a transitional fossil.
Where is this proof, scholar (and that racer guy whatever)?
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Originally posted by exlude View PostWhich takes more faith? Creation, because there's no evidence for it what so ever, and never will be.
It's not as simple as "humans came from nothing". You are skipping millions of years of evolution and speciation. Remember, the human species is only about 200,000 years old. Life is 3 to 4 billion years old. That's a lot of evolution.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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Originally posted by Denny View PostYou silly fellows... nothing has been proven either way. At least I have the intellect to claim faith. You have it in evolution, but deny it with "peer reviewed" crap. Whatever makes you sleep better at night, I guess.
If you take the approach of science you observe everything and follow that to a conclusion. What leads to that conclusion can be strengthened or weakened by new technologies and discoveries which may change that conclusion altogether.
If you are a creationist you begin with a conclusion and accept what agrees with it and ignore everything else that disagrees with it never wavering in your beliefs and altering them or the conclusion you began with.US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer
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Originally posted by Denny View PostIt was a sympathy D because you wore a low-cut shirt on the front row.
Bottom line; no species has ever been observed changing into another one. No one can claim anything came from a single cell. There is no such thing as proving any fossil is a transitional fossil.
Where is this proof, scholar (and that racer guy whatever)?
We have observed speciation.
The foundation of all life does (the single cell), indeed, affect complex lifeforms. What's true for one cell (namely a germ line cell) is true for the organism in numerous situations.
I'll agree on the fossil, however, it's funny how it all works together so well.
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostAnd you're expecting me to have faith in a theory that has holes in it through 'missing links' of evolution
Honestly, and I'm not trying to insult you, I'm not expecting you to understand evolution. Most people in this thread don't understand because they don't know a lick about molecular biology, molecular evolution, genetics, biochem, and human evolution. At best, most have a rudimentary understanding of anthropology that they grabbed from a website and they were taught the basics of mutations in HS Biology.
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Originally posted by Denny View PostIt was a sympathy D because you wore a low-cut shirt on the front row.
Bottom line; no species has ever been observed changing into another one. No one can claim anything came from a single cell. There is no such thing as proving any fossil is a transitional fossil.
Where is this proof, scholar (and that racer guy whatever)?
Maddhattter linked to you a study in which one species was observed turning into another one.
There is such a thing as proving a fossil is a transitional fossil, via 2 methods. Genetic, and morphological.
If we didn't come from a single cell, then where did we come from? Remember, if you can't show it, you don't know it.
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Originally posted by exlude View PostYou're starting to see why it's called a theory. There are missing portions of the explanation. We don't know 100% of the story. But we can test it, and continue to do so, and the evidence continues to support it. Like I said earlier, there is no better scientific explanation.
Honestly, and I'm not trying to insult you, I'm not expecting you to understand evolution. Most people in this thread don't understand because they don't know a lick about molecular biology, molecular evolution, genetics, biochem, and human evolution. At best, most have a rudimentary understanding of anthropology that they grabbed from a website and they were taught the basics of mutations in HS Biology.I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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Creationism ignores all the evidence and says to anything that goes against it, "was placed there by God to mystify us." Creationism has been around for a long time, well before all the evidence we have today, so the conclusion has been there. The counter evidence is now thrown away by the creationist community. I find it funny how creationists argue and argue and argue against the worldwide fossil record but will take one example at Fossil Rim as gospel.
Intelligent Design doesn't do ANYTHING with the evidence that is there. It skims over the wealth of information out there and throws its collective hands in the air saying, "I don't get it, it's too complex, God must have done it"
Neither community holds themselves to any kind of scientific discipline.
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Originally posted by racrguy View PostYou aren't educated enough to have a valid opinion on the topic.
Maddhattter linked to you a study in which one species was observed turning into another one.
There is such a thing as proving a fossil is a transitional fossil, via 2 methods. Genetic, and morphological.
If we didn't come from a single cell, then where did we come from? Remember, if you can't show it, you don't know it.
Bring on the transitional fossil evidence because that is one thing I have specifically looked for.
In your words... show it.
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Originally posted by Denny View PostRight. Those studies take a bunch of information and make a massive jump in conclusion. (Leap of faith, maybe?)
Bring on the transitional fossil evidence because that is one thing I have specifically looked for.
In your words... show it.
Before I provide you with the transitional fossils you're looking for that are readily available. What do you think a transitional fossil is?
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