Fight over teaching evolution in Texas fizzles

[jdgregory84]

It's about writing stuff in a book and then everybody can reference it saying science thinks so.

Without those books none of us would be able to express our opinions with each other, never having met one another by typing it on a computer and sending it through the dubya's.

[Denny]

Without those books none of us would be able to express our opinions with each other, never having met one another by typing it on a computer and sending it through the dubya's.

Without the occurrences in the other book, we wouldn't even exist.

[mustangguy289]

Without the occurrences in the other book, we wouldn't even exist.

Hey you can't prove any of that. References please.

[jdgregory84]

Without the occurrences in the other book, we wouldn't even exist.

"Hey square one. It's been a few posts since I've seen you."

[Denny]

"Hey square one. It's been a few posts since I've seen you."

And you STILL don't get it...

[mustangguy289]

And you STILL don't get it...

Maybe he will evolve soon and understand it.

[exlude]

But isn't science about ruling out all possibilities until a conclusion is reached?

Yes, but not in the way you are leading with this post. Science is about what is observed and testable. As the supernatural cannot be observed or tested, it falls outside the realm of science.

[jdgregory84]

Maybe he will evolve soon and understand it.

I just don't get how evolution is still considered theory and not scientific fact. Like the article states, there's nearly as much evidence supporting evolution as there is supporting the "theory" of gravity. Is anybody here, christian or non going to say that gravity doesn't exist? I don't think that scientists are are trying to understand evolution are trying to discredit God. It might discredit the bible, but that's not the same. That brings us back to the bible being written by men though. What if God is sitting up on that little cloud, thinking "Dammit. They really screwed that book up."?

[mustangguy289]

I just don't get how evolution is still considered theory and not scientific fact. Like the article states, there's nearly as much evidence supporting evolution as there is supporting the "theory" of gravity. Is anybody here, christian or non going to say that gravity doesn't exist? I don't think that scientists are are trying to understand evolution are trying to discredit God. It might discredit the bible, but that's not the same. That brings us back to the bible being written by men though. What if God is sitting up on that little cloud, thinking "Dammit. They really screwed that book up."?

They probably could if they minimized the theory and took some of the more unproven stuff out.

Correct me if I am wrong, man coming from monkeys is part of the theory correct. You CANNOT prove that for a fact.

You CAN prove organisms change slightly over time and evolve in order to adapt to their surroundings.

[Denny]

They probably could if they minimized the theory and took some of the more unproven stuff out.

Correct me if I am wrong, man coming from monkeys is part of the theory correct. You CANNOT prove that for a fact.

You CAN prove organisms change slightly over time and evolve in order to adapt to their surroundings.

More like man and monkey coming from the same place, but evolving in different ways.

[jdgregory84]

They probably could if they minimized the theory and took some of the more unproven stuff out.

Correct me if I am wrong, man coming from monkeys is part of the theory correct. You CANNOT prove that for a fact.

You CAN prove organisms change slightly over time and evolve in order to adapt to their surroundings.

I think it's more that humans started out as a more ape-like species. We're still ape-like. A couple of small physical changes and a lot more body hair and you're not far off from a modern day ape.

[Denny]

Yes, but not in the way you are leading with this post. Science is about what is observed and testable. As the supernatural cannot be observed or tested, it falls outside the realm of science.

Can't be tested or obseved, so it has to be ruled out?

I just don't get how evolution is still considered theory and not scientific fact. Like the article states, there's nearly as much evidence supporting evolution as there is supporting the "theory" of gravity. Is anybody here, christian or non going to say that gravity doesn't exist? I don't think that scientists are are trying to understand evolution are trying to discredit God. It might discredit the bible, but that's not the same. That brings us back to the bible being written by men though. What if God is sitting up on that little cloud, thinking "Dammit. They really screwed that book up."?

I can see this perspective and there are a lot of believers that do as well. It all just goes back to faith again.

[mustangguy289]

I think it's more that humans started out as a more ape-like species. We're still ape-like. A couple of small physical changes and a lot more body hair and you're not far off from a modern day ape.

I'd rather you say apes are human like. We are the predominent species.

[exlude]

Can't be tested or obseved, so it has to be ruled out?

Ruled out only in that it can't be considered until there is a means to test or observe it. Until then, it's left to the theologists.

[Denny]

Ruled out only in that it can't be considered until there is a means to test or observe it. Until then, it's left to the theologists.

Gotcha. I can live with that.