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  • #46
    Originally posted by Cannonball996 View Post
    how bout easing some restrictions on businesses, especially small business, get rid of some of the red tape and regulations. and why not get the trade treaties done?

    they dont have to create jobs, but why make it harder for me to hire people?
    Like what? How hard is it to hire a guy? Seriously? Or are you talking about cutting your tax bill as a business? Well, if you are looking to cut taxes, you MUST cut spending. The republicans are doing the right thing and taking a HUGE step back and dealing with the REAL problem at hand. Too much spending. Cut the spending, taxes won't have to be raised. Cut the spending long enough and deep enough....taxes could actually go down.

    You keep asking for a "jobs bill" but what the fuck is that? Do you want dumbass to give you cash to hire someone with a law? Too many fucking people standing around with their hands out wanting something for nothing.

    I still say we need 20% tariffs on EVERYTHING that comes into the US that is already produced here. That's the point of a tariff, to protect our industrial machine. The problem is rich bastards chased profit and cash instead of keeping our manufacturing base strong. At some point, we won't be producing anything and we will default on all that Chinese Debt. They could put an embargo on us and we are FUKT because we would have to re-mobilize our industrial complex and not have any borrowing capacity to rebuild. Only choice at that point is for US to fire the first shot.

    Every bastard in washington needs to go. Time to clean house and re-establish patriotism and isolationism.

    Oh, and the stopping SS checks is STUPID...the elderly already know they are second to foreign aid....which pisses them off. Dems are DONE!

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    • #47
      I'm pretty sure this would include my GI Bill. That would suck balls.
      DE OPPRESSO LIBER

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      • #48
        Yep, GI bill would stop as well
        I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
          Yep, GI bill would stop as well
          Well, that is my fucking rent money. As well, as food, and.. well hell, it's 80% of my income.
          DE OPPRESSO LIBER

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Grape View Post
            wait wait wait, government isn't smart enough to decide my insurance, but you think they are smart enough to plan my retirement......silly republicans, can't have it both ways.
            Most folks on this board hate the idea of SS because it is a ponzi scheme. However that doesn't change the fact that there are A HUGE number of seniors in this country that are dependent on it..

            But I'll go one step further. Seniors are DEPENDENT on our government. The President just threatened every senior citizen in this country if he doesn't get his way. This is the biggest reason why we must begin a phase out of SS.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by HarrisonTX View Post
              Well, that is my fucking rent money. As well, as food, and.. well hell, it's 80% of my income.
              You're telling me. He's threatening my VA pay and SSD.
              I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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              • #52
                You can't legislate from the heart. If those old people cared about their future they should have taken care of it when they were young. Like everyone else who has half a brain. Death to SS.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                  You can't legislate from the heart. If those old people cared about their future they should have taken care of it when they were young. Like everyone else who has half a brain. Death to SS.
                  You act like they didnt pay in that money they are getting??!!

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                  • #54
                    debt limit will be raised IMO but there will be some very big changes in order to reduce the deficit. never should have gotten this bad but greed blinds people sometimes. if taxes get raised the rich will just pass it on to the less fortunate.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Lason View Post
                      You act like they didnt pay in that money they are getting??!!
                      Shit happens. Usually real bad shit. Tough shit. Its gotta end sometime, best to do it now and get it over with.

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                      • #56
                        Hey, at least the big banks were bailed out. I'm glad we got stuck with the shit off of their balance sheets. Way to go government, thanks for keeping them in business and fucking us over again...

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                          Shit happens. Usually real bad shit. Tough shit. Its gotta end sometime, best to do it now and get it over with.
                          So, you are saying you do not mind paying for mandatory life insurance all your life but getting told after 30 years of paying that when you die your family isn't getting jack?

                          Sounds smart.

                          Stevo
                          Originally posted by SSMAN
                          ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by HarrisonTX View Post
                            Well, that is my fucking rent money. As well, as food, and.. well hell, it's 80% of my income.
                            Same here, it is, by a big chunk, the biggest part of my income.
                            I predict that if they cut off all (or even a large percentage) of government entitlements, there will be wholesale chaos.
                            "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                              Shit happens. Usually real bad shit. Tough shit. Its gotta end sometime, best to do it now and get it over with.
                              So by your logic, if Fidelity takes off with your 401K when you decide to retire then owell, you should have taken care of it when you were young? They were forced to pay into SS with the understanding that their money would be there waiting on them when they retired.

                              We need to get rid of SS but we do not need to start with the people already collecting!
                              Last edited by Lason; 07-13-2011, 07:21 AM.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Lason View Post
                                So by your logic, if Fidelity takes off with your 401K when you decide to retire then owell, you should have taken care of it when you were young? They paid into SS with the understanding that their money would be there waiting on them when they retired.

                                We need to get rid of SS but we do not need to start with the people already collecting!
                                Correction... they were FORCED to pay into it, which makes the whole situation even more atrocious. I fully agree with you. Start with all of Congress' and the Administration's forms of compensation, then move to the younger beneficiaries of SS, then to unemployment and welfare. Leave the VA, disability and SS for elderly alnone.

                                Obama should pick on the people who can fend for themselves first.

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