Israel = Sponsor of Terrorism

[Geor!]

Yet another example of our almighty Messiah making enemies out of our friends...


The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE) maintains a list of “specially designated countries” (SDCs) that “have shown a tendency to promote, produce or protect terrorist organizations or their members.” The folks from these nations get special scrutiny when they enter the U.S.

Here’s the list:

Afghanistan
West Bank
Algeria
Bahrain
Oman
Bangladesh
Pakistan
Philippines
Egypt
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Indonesia
Somalia
Iran
Sudan
Iraq
Syria
Israel
And so forth.

Israel? Yes Israel is one of the thirty-six SDCs that “promote, produce, or protect” terrorists, according to the Obama Administration. With splendid equality, they manage to list the world’s biggest victim alongside the globe’s leading perpetrators of terrorism. Israelis coming into America get the same high level of scrutiny that Iranians do!

This information, which comes to us courtesy of the wonderful website www.ruthfullyyours.com, is as shocking as it is credible.

That Obama has tried to maintain that there is a moral equilibrium between Israel and the aggressive Arabs that surround it is well known. But to list Israel as a promoter, protector, or producer of terrorism is quite extraordinary.

Doubtless some politically correct soul at ICE or in the State Department felt that the U.S. needed to show impartiality in making up its list and include non-Muslim countries. What better rebuttal to those who would claim that the ICE is profiling Muslims than to say that Israel is also on the list?

But Israel’s inclusion on the list, to say nothing of the indignity inflicted on its citizens as they seek to enter the United States, is an insult and must be corrected at once!

[Gargamel]

With all the daily crazy shit that goes on in our country these days, sometimes I feel like Clint Eastwood's character in Gran Torino....

Sitting on his porch with a beer watching the world that he once knew tear itself apart.... and then turn into something he can no longer recognize... or even feel he wants to participate in....

There was a time I gave a shit, but I gave up some time ago....



All I care about now are my kids. I always do my best to make sure that they have a strong moral and common-sense foundation and an idea of what this country "used" to be.... other than that, once they are out of the nest, God help em....

[Craizie]

I'm OK with Israels state sponsored terrorism.

[Broncojohnny]

It is because the Palestinian territories are in Israel. Hamas, a terrorist organization, is in charge of the West Bank.

[Geor!]

It is because the Palestinian territories are in Israel. Hamas, a terrorist organization, is in charge of the West Bank.

I see your point, but it's flawed if the West Bank is exclusively noted on that list.

[Broncojohnny]

I see your point, but it's flawed if the West Bank is exclusively noted on that list.

Well, the West Bank and Gaza strip are both still technically Israel. So I believe that if a traveller comes out of there he would be carrying an Israeli passport. But I am not sure to be honest. I'd bet that is the case though.

[BP]

How about Qatar? That's the one country that actually likes us.

[Cannonball996]

so this website, www.ruthfullyyours.com broke the story? lol

there are only 4 countries on the list of countries that sponsor terrorism, here is the link: http://www.state.gov/s/ct/c14151.htm

Israel is on the list of Specially Designated Countries, where ICE requires TAC (third agency check) for any detained alien, and thats because there happens to be terrorist activity in those countries. read about it here: http://www.dhs.gov/xoig/assets/mgmtr...1-81_May11.pdf

[Geor!]

so this website, www.ruthfullyyours.com broke the story? lol

there are only 4 countries on the list of countries that sponsor terrorism, here is the link: http://www.state.gov/s/ct/c14151.htm

Israel is on the list of Specially Designated Countries, where ICE requires TAC (third agency check) for any detained alien, and thats because there happens to be terrorist activity in those countries. read about it here: http://www.dhs.gov/xoig/assets/mgmtr...1-81_May11.pdf

Terrorists in Israel? Please enlighten me. Also, why were they put on this list under this administration?

[Cannonball996]

Terrorists in Israel? Please enlighten me. Also, why were they put on this list under this administration?

there have been tons of terrorists attacks in Israel, I am sure you know this.
and islamic terrorists have been caught in the past using Israeli passports and documentation.

[SlowLX]

Terrorists in Israel? Please enlighten me. Also, why were they put on this list under this administration?

I've seen you post smart things all the time so you can't be that thick. Israel is on the SDC because of the high possibility of Muslims with ties to terrorists organizations coming out of Israeli controlled territory. This isn't to stop every single Jew coming to NYC to visit their family it's meant to scrutinize Achmed the dead terrorist who came out of Israel to hide the fact that he really spent the last 2 years in southern Lebanon. Even Bush had Israel on the list of countries to be aware of.

[Geor!]

I've seen you post smart things all the time so you can't be that thick. Israel is on the SDC because of the high possibility of Muslims with ties to terrorists organizations coming out of Israeli controlled territory. This isn't to stop every single Jew coming to NYC to visit their family it's meant to scrutinize Achmed the dead terrorist who came out of Israel to hide the fact that he really spent the last 2 years in southern Lebanon. Even Bush had Israel on the list of countries to be aware of.

Meanwhile, Mr. TSA pats down gramma. It's a fucked up situation, sure, but does Israel think the same about us? No. Why? They profile. I'm still waiting to hear why profiling is so taboo when it is so effective.

[SlowLX]

Meanwhile, Mr. TSA pats down gramma. It's a fucked up situation, sure, but does Israel think the same about us? No. Why? They profile. I'm still waiting to hear why profiling is so taboo when it is so effective.

There's two completely different dynamics driving policy decisions in each country. America is quite large and is "founded" on the principles of right to privacy and freedom. If you compound that with the country's previous endeavors involving racial profiling they kind of leave a bad taste in your mouth. The BS TSA security is nothing more than a feel good measure with negligible proof of success and they know it too. Most Americans put up with the hassle because they "think" it works.

Israel on the other hand is a very tiny country who has had other nations attempt to genocide it off the map at multiple times in their history. They don't have multiple religious freedoms as in America, they don't even have similar personal rights as Americans do on certain issues. They catch flak for their policy implementations because they have made and still make conscious decisions after every single incident to ensure the future of their security.

America is similar to Russia or China in the fact that as long as we stay as one country we will never be fully irrelevant on the international scale simply because the size of our population, industry, and land. Israel not so much, they can afford to run a much more tight ship and get away with things that will never fly in America because the other side of the card for them isn't irrelevancy it's the destruction of their culture. As much as we in America like to think we're special we're not, we're not the only white'ish (for the moment) people who believe in Jesus mostly. We as a cultural group, are not going anywhere. Even if you discount our ancestral lands for most Americans as no longer part of our culture, America is so large our full culture will never disappear without something akin to nuclear holocaust.

[Vertnut]

Meanwhile, Mr. TSA pats down gramma. It's a fucked up situation, sure, but does Israel think the same about us? No. Why? They profile. I'm still waiting to hear why profiling is so taboo when it is so effective.

Israel does not an ACLU or NAACP. See, "profiling" = racism in this country. Israel doesn't give two shits about being called "racists". They care more about planes staying in the air when they're supposed too, and buildings not getting knocked down.

[SlowLX]

Israel does not an ACLU or NAACP. See, "profiling" = racism in this country. Israel doesn't give two shits about being called "racists". They care more about planes staying in the air when they're supposed too, and buildings not getting knocked down.

Or because statistically a once a decade attack on average resulting in hundreds to a few thousand civilians means dick to a bureaucracy inhabited by 300 million people with the shortest attention span on earth. Where as DAILY bombings injuring and killing dozens of people even with one of the most stringent security systems in place means a whole lot to a country who's population is about the size of Michigan or Ohio.