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  • #16
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    I would bet many of them would be better suited for clown work.

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    • #17
      Yeah and what sucks is, every once in a while you get a pretty good guy in a public office. But he can't fight the tide of clowns so its very difficult for him do what needs to be done.

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      • #18
        Nothing will change until you get rid of the damn party system and we elect people not parties... until our representatives represent us and not a platform.
        www.dfwdirtriders.com

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        • #19
          Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
          Yeah and what sucks is, every once in a while you get a pretty good guy in a public office. But he can't fight the tide of clowns so its very difficult for him do what needs to be done.
          and the media makes them out to be a nut for actually speaking the truth.

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          • #20
            Destroying the media would also help a lot. No more government money and they'd change their tune eventually.

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            • #21
              TERM LIMITS for congress will fix a lot of things.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Dacotua View Post
                TERM LIMITS for congress will fix a lot of things.
                You're asking power hungry people that are attention whores to limit both. Good luck.

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                • #23
                  I would respond, but I agree with virtually every 'we are fucked' comment above.

                  Just for fun , here is a good article I read this morning that pretty much spells out why the disaster will continue.
                  I don't agree with the Tea party comments regarding it ineffectiveness, but the party needs to be stronger no doubt.



                  btw I really think some of the opinion pieces at FOX are bullshit, but hey they're just opinion. I'm sure other news outlets that are liberal in nature would really piss me off.
                  fox really is somewhat balanced.... no wonder they've been doing better , then all the liberal new orgs they are surrounded by.
                  they are maybe lightly right leaning / conservative based.

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                  • #24
                    Ok so my next question would have to be this.

                    Using all the "avoidance" methods that you can, how much can you lower that ghastly percentage? I mean all the "rich people" have to pay what... something like 35% income tax? On top of that, you got like 10% for social security. So right there uncle sam is raping your ass for half your fucking pay. Its wrong. So all in all, what can you get that percentage down to? If you have a good accountant lol

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                      Ok so my next question would have to be this.

                      Using all the "avoidance" methods that you can, how much can you lower that ghastly percentage? I mean all the "rich people" have to pay what... something like 35% income tax? On top of that, you got like 10% for social security. So right there uncle sam is raping your ass for half your fucking pay. Its wrong. So all in all, what can you get that percentage down to? If you have a good accountant lol
                      17% total and Obama considers me "rich."

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                      • #26
                        So its possible to get their outright thievery number of 45%, down to 17%? I could almost live with that. Or are you saying that its possible to know 17% off of their 45%?

                        Yeah where they set the bar for "rich" people is a fucking joke. So the middle class is now "rich". Yeah, if you're a poor sack of shit that chose to put yourself in the situation that you're in, then I guess to you, the hard working middle class must look "rich". So lets take their money.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                          So its possible to get their outright thievery number of 45%, down to 17%? I could almost live with that. Or are you saying that its possible to know 17% off of their 45%?

                          Yeah where they set the bar for "rich" people is a fucking joke. So the middle class is now "rich". Yeah, if you're a poor sack of shit that chose to put yourself in the situation that you're in, then I guess to you, the hard working middle class must look "rich". So lets take their money.
                          I got it down with my overseas warzone exemption and a ton of itemization. It can be done legally, but the circumstances are rare to be truely legit. Most loopholes are written for "S corporations."

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                          • #28
                            Oh. Well do you happen to know anything about how much the average joe can get it down?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                              Oh. Well do you happen to know anything about how much the average joe can get it down?
                              Not much beyond what your home interest, losses, medical, education and charity contributions can bring it down.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                                Oh. Well do you happen to know anything about how much the average joe can get it down?
                                have you ever done your own taxes?
                                This shit isn't that hard to figure out on your own if youve ever done something besides the EZ.

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