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  • #16
    Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
    Owners are locking the players out. The two are arguing over a billion dollars. Theres 9 billion in revenue and the owners get 1 billion off the top, but the owners want another billion off the top for "developing" stuff.

    That is the main reason. Rookie salary is another, and an 18 game season, and a few other things.
    Profit sharing is also part of it, as well as extending the season.
    Originally posted by BradM
    But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
    Originally posted by Leah
    In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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    • #17
      JasonLaCanfora: Discussions ongoing in DC, nothing official yet, but momentum growing for "stopping the clock." Decision looming by 5:30. Sides talking.
      The clock may not strike midnight on labor negotiations Thursday night after all.NFL commissioner Roger Goodell arrives for the 10th day of federal mediation in Washington.
      CAPTIONBy Alex Brandon, AP
      According to an NFL.com report, the NFL and NFLPA could opt to "stop the clock" rather than the league choosing to lock out the players or the union decertifying.
      All player transactions would cease, but the negotiating period would potentially be extended indefinitely

      http://content.usatoday.com/communit...tial-lockout/1

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      • #18
        And a quote from fucking Obama:

        You have owners worth close to a billion, players making millions. The parties should be able to work it out. I'm a big football fan. For an industry making $9 billion, I'd hope they can figure out how to divide it up in a sensible way. ... I hope they can come to an agreement without me having to intervene.

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        • #19
          24 hour extension just announced.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mike View Post
            24 hour extension just announced.
            They got scared of Obama coming in.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by GSXRK5 View Post
              They got scared of Obama coming in.
              Nah, jimmy johns refused to deliver without payment over the phone.

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              • #22
                LOL @ Obama threatening to intervene.
                Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mike View Post
                  And a quote from fucking Obama:
                  Obama is a world class assholes. Revenue does not equate to profit. No wonder that ignorant fuck is failing. Every dollar he throws down the well convinces him he just made a profit. Fuck him.


                  And I was right

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                  • #24
                    Obama should shut the fuck up and worry about this country he is ruining. Obama has no business butting in to private enterprise. Like anyone gives a fuck what he thinks anyways.
                    Originally posted by BradM
                    But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                    Originally posted by Leah
                    In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by bcoop View Post
                      Obama should shut the fuck up and worry about this country he is ruining. Obama has no business butting in to private enterprise. Like anyone gives a fuck what he thinks anyways.
                      He is the chosen one... Did you not get the memo?

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                      • #26
                        Interesting. Kind of sounds like the owners are in control of Goodell. Maybe JJ is the real commish.

                        Tight leash on Goodell strangles NFL owners


                        WASHINGTON – NFL owners got a harsh dose of reality Thursday when it became stunningly apparent that the players are fully behind DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the NFL Players Association.


                        And it’s apparent that the owners aren’t behind commissioner Roger Goodell to the same extent.


                        More From Jason ColeTight leash on Goodell strangles NFL owners Mar 3, 2011 Sides agree to 24-hour CBA extension Mar 3, 2011 On Thursday, Goodell cobbled together a 24-hour extension to the end of the collective bargaining agreement, giving the union and the league another day to work. Sadly, everyone who was in the room at the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Services building knows that one more day is not enough to get a new deal done. The best the sides can hope for when they reconvene Friday is another extension.

                        An overtime Goodell didn’t have the authority from his constituency to request.

                        “Every time we deal with Roger, he doesn’t have the power to say yes or no to anything,” a union source said Thursday night, echoing a sentiment made by several other sources over the past month of talks between the sides. “He always has to go back and check with his people if something is OK. We’re negotiating, but we’re not negotiating with somebody who can make the call. It’s frustrating.”

                        Meanwhile, it’s becoming apparent that Smith is a guy who can make the call. As Smith and the rest of the union’s entourage of players and lawyers waited as Goodell scrambled to get enough support for the extension, the NFLPA was ready to drop a series of hammers.

                        The most important of which is a class-action lawsuit that features the names of Peyton Manning(notes) , Drew Brees(notes) and Tom Brady(notes). It’s ready to go as soon as the clock strikes midnight on the CBA. The fact that Manning, Brees and Brady are among nine players who will be named plaintiffs in the case can’t be understated. Their presence is a powerful statement about the state of the union, that the players aren’t prepared to fold anytime soon.

                        And it was completely unexpected.

                        On Wednesday, for instance, one owner basically chuckled at the idea of Brady putting his name on a lawsuit. “That’s not something Tom would do,” the owner said, implying that Brady is not the type of guy who would get his hands dirty or his reputation soiled over a contentious legal issue.


                        But in less than two years, Smith has created a powerful following among the players. Twenty years ago, the idea of getting the three biggest quarterbacks in the league to back the union was unheard of. Players of that stature didn’t want to take the risks associated with taking on the NFL.

                        Now, the three biggest faces of the league are flanking Smith as he leads the fight for the players. All the while, Goodell is struggling to lead a group of owners who seem less unified by the day.

                        Of course, this is not Goodell’s fault. While Goodell has done an exemplary job of leading the NFL in most ways during his four-plus years on the job, he still hasn’t earned the trust of enough owners when it comes to handling their money. That kind of bond comes over time and requires repeated good decisions at crucial moments. Unfortunately, Goodell has yet to face a moment as crucial as this one.

                        That said, the owners need to start trusting Goodell’s judgment. They should have trusted him in 2008 when they went against his judgment and opted out of the CBA. That was a gigantic tactical error that ultimately gave the players more time to get on the same page.


                        Beyond that, Goodell and league attorney Jeff Pash have repeatedly tried to get owners to understand that a battle with the players was likely going to end up in court, a place where the owners have an extremely bad record of success. To this point, the owners have thought that the players would fold at the first sign of labor strife.

                        Instead, the players have become only more resolved. Goodell expected that and the owners need to recognize his vision. Instead of making Goodell check back with them every time a decision needs to be made, the owners need to empower him the way players like Manning, Brees and Brady have empowered Smith.

                        That way, perhaps an equitable deal can be reached. If not, even the extension that’s expected to come after Friday’s talks isn’t likely to be fruitful.

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                        • #27
                          The lockout isn't happening.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mike View Post
                            And a quote from fucking Obama:
                            Funny coming from someone who still hasn't been able to drop the unemployment rate like he said he would be able to, amongst hundreds of other things. He's being the biggest of arm chair quarterbacks with that statement.

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                            • #29
                              AdamSchefter: 7 day extension confirmed. Talks through next Friday at 5 pm. Mediation likely to continue Monday
                              They are just going to drag it out.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mike View Post
                                They are just going to drag it out.
                                Looks like it...

                                Neither of them want a lockout, yet they can't come to an agreement....

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