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  • Sources: Panthers owner disses Manning, Brees

    And in the latest news on the NFL negotiations.



    Sources: Panthers owner disses Manning, Brees

    By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports

    Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson mocked quarterbacks Peyton Manning(notes) and Drew Brees(notes) during a Feb. 5 negotiating session with the NFL Players Association, says three league sources, a sign of disrespect that the union hopes solidifies its members in the pending labor battle with the NFL.



    “[Richardson] was extremely condescending to them, especially toward Peyton,” a source said. “[Richardson] was the only person on either side who was contentious. Everybody else was respectful. They might have said, ‘I disagree with your point,’ but at least they were respectful. [Richardson] was not.”


    Apparently, Richardson was particularly sarcastic when Manning started to talk about players’ safety. At one point, Richardson evidently said, “What do you know about player safety?”


    Richardson was unavailable for comment. A league source denied that there was any contentious discussion between the team owner and anyone from the union’s side.

    “Mr. Richardson is a former player and made clear his respect and affection for the players during the meeting,” the source said.

    While negotiations between the NFL and the NFLPA have historically been marked by contentious moments, Richardson’s outburst may be especially telling for the players.

    “If he’s willing to talk to [Manning] and [Brees] that way, what do you think it says about what he and the other owners think about the rest of the players?” the source said, rhetorically. “Now, it really only matters if [Richardson] is representing the opinion of 23 or even eight other owners, but it has to make you wonder.”

    Richardson, who is the only former NFL player to own a team, has been considered one of the staunchest proponents of hard-line tactics in the current negotiations. Last March, Richardson addressed the rest of the NFL owners at the league’s annual spring meeting with a fiery speech. Richardson said the owners had to “take back our league” during the negotiations with players.

    “We signed a [expletive] deal last time and we’re going to stick together and take back our league and [expletive] do something about it,” Richardson said, as reported by Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports.


    That has been interpreted as a clear indication that Richardson and some other owners want to break the NFLPA and get players to give greater concessions. The owners are currently holding firm on a request to have an additional $1 billion in expenses be removed from the pool of shared revenue.


    Currently, the NFL grosses approximately $9 billion annually. Of that, $1 billion is given to the owners off the top for expenses. After that, the remaining $8 billion is split with 60 percent ($4.8 billion) going to the players and 40 percent (another $3.2 billion for a total of $4.2 billion) going to owners.

    Under the owners’ proposal, the first $2 billion would go to them. The owners have tried to sell that idea by saying the money would go toward reinvestment in the game to help grow the overall amount of money that is shared.


    The players are currently unwilling to accept the owners’ proposal and are facing the likelihood of having the owners lock out the players after the March 3 deadline. In response, the union would likely decertify, leaving it vulnerable.


    In that regard, Richardson’s comments to Manning could backfire on the owners. In 1987, for instance, the NFL was able to split the union in large part by creating what was known as the Quarterback Club, a marketing arm that led several top quarterbacks to stop supporting the union. In the case of Manning, who is not a player representative or member of the NFLPA’s executive board, his opinion carries great weight throughout the NFL. Last August, Manning said he would be completely supportive of the union’s cause at the proper time, but has largely stayed in the background.

    Having him fully behind the union could be important to maintaining unity.
    Richardson sounds like an asshole.

  • #2
    Fuck that. Fuck Peyton, and Brees. Who gives a shit if he was disrespectful? Is everyone not aware how far apart these two worlds are? There are going to be disagreements, there will be name calling, finger pointing, etc. It's a VERY polarizing argument. And quite honestly, what does Manning know about player safety? Not a damn thing...


    The players think there is more money than there really is to go around, and they want it all. All the while, they want rule changes, blah blah blah. Personally, I'm sick and tired of hearing about "player safety". Fuck that. That's why these guys get paid the big bucks. I like Goodell, but I think he's gone too far. When you've got new rules like the "Roy Williams" rule, and the "Tom Brady" rule, things have gone too far. I mean fuck, Manning and Brady get to call their own penalties for fuck's sake. It's ridiculous. The sport is turning more in to a circus and less of a sport.
    Originally posted by BradM
    But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
    Originally posted by Leah
    In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bcoop View Post
      Fuck that. Fuck Peyton, and Brees. Who gives a shit if he was disrespectful? Is everyone not aware how far apart these two worlds are? There are going to be disagreements, there will be name calling, finger pointing, etc. It's a VERY polarizing argument. And quite honestly, what does Manning know about player safety? Not a damn thing...


      The players think there is more money than there really is to go around, and they want it all. All the while, they want rule changes, blah blah blah. Personally, I'm sick and tired of hearing about "player safety". Fuck that. That's why these guys get paid the big bucks. I like Goodell, but I think he's gone too far. When you've got new rules like the "Roy Williams" rule, and the "Tom Brady" rule, things have gone too far. I mean fuck, Manning and Brady get to call their own penalties for fuck's sake. It's ridiculous. The sport is turning more in to a circus and less of a sport.
      I think the whole damn things a complete fuckfest. The owners want to take 1 billion more off the top and the players don't like it.

      Why wouldn't Peyton know something about players health? He is a player isn't he? He knows his risk as much as everyone else. Granted, he doesn't the medical nature of it, but he understands the consequences.

      It is just surprising to see Richardson not be on the players side in some way. Since he was a player himself.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
        I think the whole damn things a complete fuckfest. The owners want to take 1 billion more off the top and the players don't like it.
        Of course they don't! They want that money, they're entitled to it! Let's not forget, this cut that they think they are entitled to, is OUTSIDE of their contracts. They shouldn't be entitled to any of it!

        Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
        Why wouldn't Peyton know something about players health? He is a player isn't he? He knows his risk as much as everyone else. Granted, he doesn't the medical nature of it, but he understands the consequences.

        Because any time a player so much as looks in his direction, he gets to call his own penalties! Manning hasn't been hit, EVER, like some of his predecessors were subject to on every single down. If Manning gets his way, sneezing on the QB will be a penalty and ejection from the game. It's absurd. That's not football, folks.


        Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
        It is just surprising to see Richardson not be on the players side in some way. Since he was a player himself.
        Richardson played in an era where the players made a minute fraction of what they are making now. And they didn't have all these rules catering to the pussies of the league, either. They made jack shit back then. He rose above it, went on to open his own franchise restaurant, and became a CEO of a large corporation. THEN moved on to own his own NFL team.


        The player's contention is oh, health this, health that, safety this, blah blah blah. They've all become entitled, and think they don't make enough money. Their whole basis for the argument is "Look at these guys that played in the 60s, they are broke now". Well, first off, they made jack shit in the 60s. And if they are broke now, it's their own damn fault for bad financial planning. Look at Richardson. He rose above it. He's not broke. If the rest of those guys had a brain worth a shit, they'd be in similar situations. Why should it be the owner's fault these guys go broke, when NFL players are making more than they ever have? Why is it the owners' fault they can't plan for shit? It's not.


        Players are greedy and entitled. Plain and simple. I hate to be the brash asshole to point it out, but come on guys. Get real for a fucking minute.
        Originally posted by BradM
        But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
        Originally posted by Leah
        In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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        • #5
          Man, if I wasn't sick right now, I could argue, but I will just wait till I don't feel like blowing chunks from both ends.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
            Man, if I wasn't sick right now, I could argue, but I will just wait till I don't feel like blowing chunks from both ends.
            Post up your argument when you feel better. I'm interested to hear your take. I'm obviously siding with the Owners on all points. Especially Jones (in regards to profit sharing).
            Originally posted by BradM
            But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
            Originally posted by Leah
            In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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            • #7
              i want the nfl to die for a year.
              www.hppmotorsports.com
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              • #8
                Fuck all of them!

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                • #9
                  Who gives two shits what the Carolina Panthers owner says. He owns a shitty, ring around the shitter team. They suck and so does he!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zfan View Post
                    Who gives two shits what the Carolina Panthers owner says. He owns a shitty, ring around the shitter team. They suck and so does he!

                    Hard to argue with that. That said, I obviously don't see anything wrong with what he said, and agree with him.
                    Originally posted by BradM
                    But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                    Originally posted by Leah
                    In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                    • #11
                      Players can kiss my broke ass. If they don't want to play for what the owners of teams want to pay them, they can stay home or get a real job like the rest of us. Piss on 'em. That's my argument.

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                      • #12
                        yay next year will be fag football I meant flag football

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                        • #13
                          Currently, the NFL grosses approximately $9 billion annually. Of that, $1 billion is given to the owners off the top for expenses. After that, the remaining $8 billion is split with 60 percent ($4.8 billion) going to the players and 40 percent (another $3.2 billion for a total of $4.2 billion) going to owners.

                          Under the owners’ proposal, the first $2 billion would go to them. The owners have tried to sell that idea by saying the money would go toward reinvestment in the game to help grow the overall amount of money that is shared.
                          That sounds reasonable. If an owner used all his revenue for his own paycheck and the paychecks of his employees, the business would never be able to expand.
                          The players are currently unwilling to accept the owners’ proposal
                          Perfect example of greedy unions and their short-sighted goals becoming a detriment to their industry.
                          and are facing the likelihood of having the owners lock out the players after the March 3 deadline. In response, the union would likely decertify, leaving it vulnerable.
                          Best thing that could happen here IMO. Why do NFL players even need a union? They already have agents that work deals for them.
                          When the government pays, the government controls.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Vertnut View Post
                            Players can kiss my broke ass. If they don't want to play for what the owners of teams want to pay them, they can stay home or get a real job like the rest of us. Piss on 'em. That's my argument.


                            x2 Very well said.

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                            • #15
                              Pretty soon they will be chasing each other up and down the field, trying to pull the red flag from the waist line.

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