Tiger Woods and Mike Tyson

[pHILSANITY07]

Michael Vick

Vince Young

Felipe Massa

I think what affected him a lot was his wreck in 2010. Then he had to face alonso who other than hamilton has dominated every teammate.

Also in the F1 world, Jacques Villeneuve.

[pHILSANITY07]

other drivers to come in mind that had a huge fall.

Damon Hill
James Hunt
Heck Michael Schumacher in his second attempt

[cool cat]

Josh Hamilton.

[95DRGT]

I still think he can be a good player if he can get his health back, but obviously I am not a golfer.

Nice reference but your out of your element

[Rick Modena]

Pussy - undefeated since the beginning of time.

Yup...

[Dlachance]

Tiger lied, and that is why he will never come back.

Do to the way he managed his PR, everyone was under the impression that he was this great guy, he made people think he was someone else.

Tiger could of had, over the years, things come out about his personal life that led people to believe he was a bad boy and he still would be considered a great.

Can he be trusted again? Nope, trust in him was completely lost.

[bcoop]

Tiger lied, and that is why he will never come back.

Do to the way he managed his PR, everyone was under the impression that he was this great guy, he made people think he was someone else.

Tiger could of had, over the years, things come out about his personal life that led people to believe he was a bad boy and he still would be considered a great.

Can he be trusted again? Nope, trust in him was completely lost.

Yes, because a lie totally diminishes your athletic ability.


What the actual fuck. Lmgdao

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Yes, because a lie totally diminishes your athletic ability.

+1

[RabidJackal]

Tiger lied, and that is why he will never come back.

Do to the way he managed his PR, everyone was under the impression that he was this great guy, he made people think he was someone else.

Tiger could of had, over the years, things come out about his personal life that led people to believe he was a bad boy and he still would be considered a great.

Can he be trusted again? Nope, trust in him was completely lost.

He never lied about anything in a public setting.

His banging pornstars on the side and his sex addiction is what fucked him up.

Golf is largely a mental game and when you're thinking about which pornstar you're going to fuck next instead of your game, you're going to fail at some point.

Given what he was doing, I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did from a mental standpoint.

As far as the physical part of it, his swing is EXTREMELY violent and over time it has taken a major toll on his body, especially his legs and now his back. He's also been rumored to have used PED's at some point. He for sure has been linked to using the Actovegin process for treatment on his knee injuries to help speed up the healing process. The guy who basically created the treatment, Anthony Galea, was also linked to Lance Armstrong and the 2000 USPS Tour De France team. You can draw your own conclusions there given what we now know from Armstrong's own admissions of PED use.

[Dlachance]

Yes, because a lie totally diminishes your athletic ability.


What the actual fuck. Lmgdao

There is no question his ability is on par. Obviously, it is not enough for him to maintain a good fan base.

[Dlachance]

Forgot about this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4737173

Edit: He also lied about the incident at the 2013 Players Championship.

He never lied about anything in a public setting.

His banging pornstars on the side and his sex addiction is what fucked him up.

Golf is largely a mental game and when you're thinking about which pornstar you're going to fuck next instead of your game, you're going to fail at some point.

Given what he was doing, I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did from a mental standpoint.

As far as the physical part of it, his swing is EXTREMELY violent and over time it has taken a major toll on his body, especially his legs and now his back. He's also been rumored to have used PED's at some point. He for sure has been linked to using the Actovegin process for treatment on his knee injuries to help speed up the healing process. The guy who basically created the treatment, Anthony Galea, was also linked to Lance Armstrong and the 2000 USPS Tour De France team. You can draw your own conclusions there given what we now know from Armstrong's own admissions of PED use.

[bcoop]

There is no question his ability is on par. Obviously, it is not enough for him to maintain a good fan base.

The large majority of his fan base hasn't gone anywhere. Where the fuck do you come up with this nonsense?

[RabidJackal]

Forgot about this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4737173

Other than a generic statement that literally every married man with something to hide would make, what specifically did he lie about? Nothing.

When someone says "How's it going?" to you, do you really tell them every fucked up thing that's happened during your day or do you just say "Ehh, it's ok."

Same thing. It's not a lie, it's just not wanting to spill the beans to someone who may or may not give a shit and/or have any clue about what you're going through.

When all the shit hit the fan, he fessed up about fucking around. He may not have laid out all the particulars and dirty details, but he admitted to it.

His body was already breaking down well before that point and that just piled on top of what was already taking place.

[Nash B.]

There is no question his ability is on par. Obviously, it is not enough for him to maintain a good fan base.

He isn't struggling because he can't maintain a fan base.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Tiger is stepping away from golf

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/02/11/tiger-woods-takes-leave-from-golf-says-game-needs-a-lot-of-work/